Chicago White Sox Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 21, 2012 -> 04:56 PM) Well, we saved money from our other signings, so we can freely use that money for Ayala. I was missing some words there, I meant beyond the $200k we went under-budget on our first 11 picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 21, 2012 -> 02:56 PM) Well, we saved money from our other signings, so we can freely use that money for Ayala. Ayala was offered 300k plus college tuition by the cardinals and said no, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be able to offer him more than 259K so there's no way he signs with us. Edited June 21, 2012 by bighurt4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Jun 21, 2012 -> 05:03 PM) Ayala was offered 300k plus college tuition by the cardinals and said no, I'm pretty sure se wouldn't me able to offer him more than 259K so there's no way he signs with us. What was our budget this year and did we come in $259k under? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I think Ayala was thinking 7 digits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 21, 2012 -> 05:10 PM) I think Ayala was thinking 7 digits. Fair enough, I'm just trying to understand what the new rules would permit us to offer without consequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share Posted June 22, 2012 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 21, 2012 -> 04:55 PM) Can't teams go over budget without consequences as long as it's not more than 5%? If so, we should have more than $200k to throw at a guy like Ayala right? Yeah, I believe the penalties don't kick in until you go more than 5% over budget. So if I am figuring this right, we have the $100,000 we can offer to anyone outside of the first 10 rounds, plus the $159k we saved, which makes $259k. If you take 5% of our draft allotment, which is $5,915,100, that gives us another $295,755. Added together we could offer one player as much as $554,755 before being penalized (assuming we didn't go over 100k with any other player outside of rounds 1-10). Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 08:03 AM) Yeah, I believe the penalties don't kick in until you go more than 5% over budget. So if I am figuring this right, we have the $100,000 we can offer to anyone outside of the first 10 rounds, plus the $159k we saved, which makes $259k. If you take 5% of our draft allotment, which is $5,915,100, that gives us another $295,755. Added together we could offer one player as much as $554,755 before being penalized (assuming we didn't go over 100k with any other player outside of rounds 1-10). Is that right? That seems right to me. $555k isn't bad if we have someone worth signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 08:03 AM) Yeah, I believe the penalties don't kick in until you go more than 5% over budget. So if I am figuring this right, we have the $100,000 we can offer to anyone outside of the first 10 rounds, plus the $159k we saved, which makes $259k. If you take 5% of our draft allotment, which is $5,915,100, that gives us another $295,755. Added together we could offer one player as much as $554,755 before being penalized (assuming we didn't go over 100k with any other player outside of rounds 1-10). Is that right? They did go over $100K for 12th rounder Zach Stoner. Supposedly gave him $120K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share Posted June 22, 2012 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 01:19 PM) They did go over $100K for 12th rounder Zach Stoner. Supposedly gave him $120K. I think that would be already factored in to their spending number, correct? I'm still trying to understand this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 01:52 PM) I think that would be already factored in to their spending number, correct? I'm still trying to understand this. It would be factored into the top 10 pool, yes. Any player signed over $100k in round 11-40 counts against your pool. Since Stoner signed for $120k, $20k would be counted towards the original pool. Or $180k for Stoner. Whatever the number is. Another edit: Baseball America has Stoner's signing over $100k counting towards the pool. With remaining money in the pool plus the 5% overage, Sox have $548,640 left to spend. Edited June 23, 2012 by Cerbaho-WG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 23, 2012 -> 02:05 PM) It would be factored into the top 10 pool, yes. Any player signed over $100k in round 11-40 counts against your pool. Since Stoner signed for $120k, $20k would be counted towards the original pool. Or $180k for Stoner. Whatever the number is. Another edit: Baseball America has Stoner's signing over $100k counting towards the pool. With remaining money in the pool plus the 5% overage, Sox have $548,640 left to spend. So they could offer Ayala $648k then, yes? All the overage plus the limit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 09:08 AM) So they could offer Ayala $648k then, yes? All the overage plus the limit? Erp, I'm slow this morning. The max they can spend is the $548k. Edited June 24, 2012 by Cerbaho-WG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 08:03 AM) Yeah, I believe the penalties don't kick in until you go more than 5% over budget. So if I am figuring this right, we have the $100,000 we can offer to anyone outside of the first 10 rounds, plus the $159k we saved, which makes $259k. If you take 5% of our draft allotment, which is $5,915,100, that gives us another $295,755. Added together we could offer one player as much as $554,755 before being penalized (assuming we didn't go over 100k with any other player outside of rounds 1-10). Is that right? QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 23, 2012 -> 02:05 PM) It would be factored into the top 10 pool, yes. Any player signed over $100k in round 11-40 counts against your pool. Since Stoner signed for $120k, $20k would be counted towards the original pool. Or $180k for Stoner. Whatever the number is. Another edit: Baseball America has Stoner's signing over $100k counting towards the pool. With remaining money in the pool plus the 5% overage, Sox have $548,640 left to spend. Hey not bad work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 09:27 AM) Erp, I'm slow this morning. The max they can spend is the $548k. OK, just wasn't sure. Given how many picks this team has already signed, I'd love to see the Sox just throw $550k at Ayala and say "this is everything we have", and see if he bites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 12:06 PM) Given how many picks this team has already signed, I'd love to see the Sox just throw $550k at Ayala and say "this is everything we have", and see if he bites. Agreed. Worth a shot, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 06:52 PM) Agreed. Worth a shot, right? Just to point out...if they did that already, we wouldn't know it unless the kid said yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 04:54 PM) Just to point out...if they did that already, we wouldn't know it unless the kid said yes. Well, sure. What's the signing deadline, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 06:10 PM) Well, sure. What's the signing deadline, anyway? July 7th I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 07:24 PM) July 7th I believe. July 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Eric Jaffe signed reported by Baseball America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 07:43 PM) Eric Jaffe signed reported by Baseball America Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 09:43 PM) Eric Jaffe signed reported by Baseball America Excellent. I wonder if we are about done then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Anybody know how Jaffe did in the CWS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Top unsigned picks... Anyone know if we have a chance at these guys? 13 (411). Derek Thompson, LHP, John A. Logan College, IL 15 (471). Jordan Guerrero, LHP, Moorspark Highschool, CA 17 (531). Sammy Ayala, C, La Jolla Country Day HS, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 08:52 AM) Anybody know how Jaffe did in the CWS? He didn't play. He barely pitched for the Bruins this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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