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Except that the downside here isn't killing a family or getting a DUI but having a good defensive CF on your team for 4 months. You're saying they couldn't have traded Robert to the Reds, Pirates, Dodgers, Yankees for anything.

I was one of those people and unless the money is redeployed, then I’m willing to admit I was wrong. But by doing so, Caulfield comes back and with a vengeance.

Ahhh, good old Bruce. “Louis” Robert Jr. For a second, I thought he was talking about this guy…

On the bright side, Jerry will use the money we saved on good players when we are contending. 20m more to spend when we contend. This is a big win.

Taking on Acuna and the other guy, while dumping $20 million in payroll, does not have potentially disastrous results. At worst, neither pan out and they're quietly released. At best, Acuna plays great defense, is a terror on the basepaths, and the bat improves a bit; and Pauley is a semi-useful bullpen piece.

Getz is saying that the Sox are now going to be very busy.

And again, if Kyle Tucker signs with the Mets, Robert is still a White Sox. Not to mention Getz now says they can get aggressive. Perhaps they wanted no one off the board at this time, but I doubt it. Risking $20 million for a potential $2 million in savings wouldn't be a risk I thought was worth it.

I can understand being salty about the return, but you're right. Unless the Sox chipped in money, which was unlikely, they were not going to get much in return for the oft-injured, inconsistent Robert on a one year $20 million deal. They ended up paying nothing and got a guy with plenty of question marks but some potential and a pitcher. As you said, the other option was to pay $2 million and get nothing.

take that money and pay for Benintendi to go away

That's like saying, I got wasted and drive 10 miles home and make it with no accident or getting pulled over. I saved Uber fare. I won.

I guess pretending that Chris Getz is secretly trying to impress you and only you is a better argument than pretending that everybody can see the future and judge the returns of a trade against what is waiting for them in 2 years. It's like the old Earl Weaver anecdote: "If you knew you were going to hit into a double-play why didn't you just strike out?"

There are now about a half a dozen players who are out of options. Would they keep Acuna and cut/waive someone else to try and justify the trade? At some point in the future we might have that to look at as well though fringe guys are fringe for a reason.

But why is it "insane"? Here are the 2 choices: A) Pay $2 million, get nothing. B) Pay nothing, get two players. The more people criticize this deal, the more I think that Chris Getz won going away.

That is crazy. You can’t make this stuff up… White Sox 2026 Payroll — $67 million Kyle Tucker’s 2026 Salary — $60 million Juan Soto’s 2026 Salary — $51 million

Maybe they were lying to themselves about not wasting a year as much as they were lying to us?

I know it sucks for fans that this rebuild is just going to be a slow burn with Getz holding onto as much youth as he can because he's in a no win situation. Fans can't really do much except dream that JR might possibly allow a $90M 26 man roster and make up trades for Sosa and Quero while hoping every prospect turns into value. This is what we've been reduced to. I now hope Baldwin magically becomes a mini Mickey Mantle and becomes what we always hoped Robert could be while getting immersed on how to read the ball off the bat in the OF so his defense doesnt drag down what I hope can be 25 HR power this year. I have to hope Sosa keeps getting better and hits 30 HRs. I have to hope For Semien like defensive improvement from multiple questionable fielders. I have to hope Montgomery and Murakami and Colson give us 75 HRs between them. I have to hope all our top prospects live up to expectations sooner rather than later. I need to see at least a 10 win improvement this year with a lot of luck from acquired assets , development that gets a bit more upwardly linear from last years rookie and the coming classes of rookies. Any way you get the picture because I'm hoping so many things go right while knowing a change of ownership is down the road , a road I hope is not as rocky as it can appear in these remaining off seasons of Reinsdorf ownership.

We all recognized that Luis Robert had a career year in 2023. We all recognized that it was the first time Luis Robert had been healthy for a full season, outside of his 60 game COVID season, including the minors. What were the odds of Luis Robert being both healthy and productive going forward, when he had never done it before. Understanding that Peak Value Luis Robert was almost certainly after 2023, you also have to recognize that if Luis Robert goes back to injured and/or not productive, his value drops immensely, that even if you didn't get VaLuE for him in 2023, that this ACTUAL return was almost certainly going to be the best you ever got because at the same time you are expecting him to return to his career norms, he was also getting exponentially more expensive. Being a good GM isn't about keeping the masses happy, it's about being smarter than the masses. If Chris Getz kept Luis Robert because he was worry about people like me on a message board, he is in the wrong line of work. Who cares what fans would have thought if it was the smartest move, and on top of it all, he KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE A TERRIBLE baseball team going forward that would take half a decade to rebuild. That timeline only emphasizes the point to sell as soon as humanly possible on Robert. So while now we have to pretend to be happy about a halloween prank of a return because ThIs Is WhAt He Is WoRtH nOw, we could have done something years ago, and that can't be ignored.

The 5th highest paid player on the roster is Derek Hill at $900k lol everyone under him is league minimum ($820k)

Well hard to say the Sox lost what they never really had. That said, we wasted a lot of words here on what ultimately was a nothing burger. Robert is clearly valued as a 1.5 WAR player on a bad one year deal. I don't really blame Getz if JR wasn't willing to pay any freight. At least they got something, even if the upside is a few years of a mildly useful Leury like utility guy.

Just a matter of time. The Robert trade was probably his last piece of leverage.

I really have no problem with the trade, What was insane was picking up Robert's option in the first place if the best you can do is what they did. If Tucker signs with the Mets, Luis Robert is doing exactly what you said would be insane.I'm thinking the Mets and Dodgers are probably the only teams in baseball that would take Robert without the Sox either eating money or taking a lot back. And from Getz's comments today, Robert's contract has hamstrung them all winter.

Luis Robert won't be on the next good White Sox team. Acuna and Pauley might be. It's basically that simple. The league just told you what Robert is worth. Holding him into the season would be insane. He'll be hurt again. He's unreliable and I'm glad it's over.

Because if they were getting offers that were below his value, why should they have taken a lesser offer? You're saying this while pretending that everyone saw the Acuña/Pauley deal sitting here in 2026. There was no urgency to trade Robert in that off-season. Looking back, we know that was when his value was highest. Should they trade Colson Montgomery right now and take the best offer because in 3 years, they might want to trade him but only be offered garbage because of that injury and slump he's going to have in 2028?

I am too which is why I hope to still be around when Ishbia takes over. Because until then, especially with the lockout coming, a "successful" season for the Sox will be if they don't lose 100 games.