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Try fixing Raiders Dolphins Browns...especially the latter two. $99 million cap hit with Tua. Browns are determined to have D.Watson on roster next year. And only Moore/Mendoza at top of most draft boards.

There has been massive turnover in the bullpen. Watching Taylor, Leasure, Vasil, and eventually Berroa won't be as tragic as the group from 2024. The lefthanders are another matter entirely, of course, but I can imagine the Sox having a decent pen in games where they have the lead, and sort of a disaster pen for the blowouts. Not exactly Cleveland or Milwaukee, but not the sole reason for the club losing 100 games either.

Happy days are here again. The Sox got tired of losing. Add 2 KC Royals type starting pitcher hacks for 7 mill a year apiece and I may buy mlb.com again. As Harry would sing: "The Sox got tired of losing tra-la tra-la."

Maybe I'm wrong but the finances of baseball seem pretty healthy if this sort of deal is happening. No 2027 lockout necessary.

Mets going all 2023/24 White Sox, excising almost all of their veteran leader core in terms of position players except for Lindor and Soto...who supposedly detest or even hate each other. Maybe it's Magglio CLee and Valentin out in 2004 for the Sox and restructuring around Lindor/Soto with young pitching and all that freed up $$$.

Want to compete? Robert in 2023 form and the Murakami of that first half of his historic NPB career. It's going to take a lot more than a #2/3 veteran added to the rotrotation. Smith and Schultz...at least one of them, has to be pretty darned close to great or at least very good. Same with Braden. 3-5 fWAR level. Let's not forget that Chase Meidroth is projected to lead the team in a decent number of projection models.

Royals a couple of years ago. 106 losses to playoffs...but that required a boatload of FA signings and career years from Witt Jr. and Perez.

JR must have been confused between the Brooklyn Dodgers/Rickey signing Robinson/Clemente and the LAD signing Ohtani/Matsumoto/Sasaki. Well at least he knew who Shohei was because he "joked" derisively about never signing him and got scolded by Manfred.

I actually agree with you here. It is Getz showing more savvy in dealing with JR than Hahn era had. Still just farce to read in modern mlb.

I really need Mune to be good cause Vaughn broke up the Frank-Paulie-Abreu run of great first basemen.

He was wondering why we are signing some unknown Japanese guy instead of David Eckstein.

so basically spend money Kendall Graveman, Joe Kelly, Vince Valesquez/Gio Gonzalez, Liam Hendricks and extend Aaron Bummer. because that strategy worked so well before. the evidence continues to mount that this is Rick Hahn's burner account.

I don't know what we get out of Burke and Kay, but it is typically a bad idea to expect a lot out of a guy in his first season off of TJS, especially for someone who already has a below average velocity.

What context is needed? This is a bullpen that is so bad, it has caused the team to preform under their expected record by about 20 games the last two years. There really hasn't been any substantive changes from the last year to this year, so I wouldn't expect that to change until the people out there do.

Interesting. So a former consensus top 70 prospect stinks because of why? Did you actually watch Kay pitch in the NPB? And I guess Burke performing fairly well down the stretch is meaningless for reasons unknown.

Historically awful in what context?

Yes.

I’m really excited to see what Thorpe looks like after he returns. I’ve probably been higher on him than most.

This bullpen is, and continues to be, historically awful. Even getting back to "average" would involve massive overhaul of the people out there.

You think Burke, Thorpe, & Kay stink?

Yeah, I don’t think we need to add 4 high leverage relievers to perform at a semi normalized level in one run games. Add veteran like Fairbanks, use Taylor more in high leverage situations, and hope for some better luck. We don’t an elite bullpen to not underperform our expected W-L record by 10 games.

I think an 80 win best case scenario exists assuming they keep Robert and he is healthy. Realistically I think they fight to get out of the 90 loss range.

There is a lot to unpack in the quote Really shines light on why the organization has been so dysfunctional and unable to be consistently competitive

That's the fun of baseball, I guess it could happen. That said, this team has very little pitching and could very well lose 100 games again. Big error ranges though, as Teel and Colson offer some upside to envision. Of course they also offer downside. Shane taking a step back after an innings load increase wouldn't be surprising, and the rest of the starters stink.

If everything goes well I could see 75 wins…which is competitive compared to the past 2 years. Still a good bit to go in order to be actually competitive in terms of making a serious playoff run though.