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They have a history. They hired Cora and promptly won a world series after Cora was involved in the Astros sign stealing scandal. They have no honor. Didn't they get Giolito's signs a few years ago? If he is tipping its not cheating tho is it?

Since COVID, Pereira's never played more than 102 games in a season. I don't know if that's from platooning, or what. He was a top 70 prospect, so the Yankees must have prioritized him for a couple seasons. Teel doesn't really enter the conversation. They have a bunch of RHH outfielders. They're not going to cut Kyle Teel to make room for Joey Bart. Grichuk does what Hays should have been doing. The front office seems to think Doyle's a better upside play than Pereira.

Speaking of nicknames, did anybody catch Plesac mention golfing with Craig "Little Hurt" Grebeck yesterday and Schriffen clearly having no idea who he is? I need my next Sox announcer to know things like this.

Yeah he would really sell the dig in every pitch, the Bronze Titan was fun to watch when he had his good stuff for sure.

Not sure, guy has a total of 264 big league ABs.

I’m usually far from a homer/everything is great type of fan…but I really don’t understand what the complaints are in this thread? Is it supposed to be a bad thing that Antonacci and Montgomery locked down the OF corners way earlier (or at all for Sam) than expected? Am I supposed to be mad that Peters has been an extremely pleasant success story? Hays got hurt and the young kids stepped up making him irrelevant to roster. Who cares? And who cares about Everson Pereria while I’m at. His a fringe big leaguer that has no spot on a playoff roster.

They also reportedly prioritized getting an OF piece

Pereira had a very good Sunday with a double a homer and 4 rbis and gets DFA the next day. Yeah he was hurt but Teel’s been hurt the just about the whole year. Hays has a pretty good track record and we throw 6 million out the window and DFA him. None of this makes sense.

I keep reading that there's a dearth of RHH OFs, but somehow nobody would give us anything for Hays of Periera, oh well.

Remember with Contreras they just made it look like every pitch was gonna be the splitter. Good luck, it’s either falling off the table or it’s gonna be 96 on the hands

Kay makes like $6 million a year so .8 fWAR ain't too bad. He's either neutral or a successful signing. The rest of the guys (minus Dominguez) were cheap, and the Car Jerker was here for like a month. The most expensive was Hays at $6 mil/-.4 fWAR. I'll give you Dominguez as a failed signing, but you've got an outfield of BMont at 0.9 fWAR (in 45 games), Peters at 2.4 fWAR, and Antonacci at 1.4 fWAR. They didn't really end up needing Hays in the way they thought they would, so I have a hard time calling that a failed signing. Murakami and Murphy alone have combined for 3.9 fWAR. I don't think any GM is 100% successful at free agent signings. In fact I'd bet the success rate is pretty low, especially where the Sox usually play. I'm pretty content with what the Sox did with their free agent signings, especially given where the team is right now.

Fair enough. I do think there's a good chance he turns it around because of the track record you cite, I'm just dubious a contender would be interested in rostering him.

I read that LAD just made Roki Sasaki use a bigger glove so it's more difficult to pick up on a tip. Let's send Davis out looking like this next start.

It's a day that ends in day on Soxtalk...

The "isn't good when he does" is simply false, he's pretty damn good against LHP and total OPS+ of 106 for his career. I'd happily make the argument that Montgomery shouldn't be on the roster in a playoff push with his .600 something OPS, but Benintendi being unusable in the OF means Braden has to stay to man RF. I'll happily bet $10 that Hays is claimed.

Im sorry to hear that and hope things turn around for you.

There's a big difference between in-season pick-ups and DFA trades and actual free-agent signings. All teams in the off-season are roster building, and so their value is set by the league and not artificially deflated by waivers or other teams being fully constructed. FA shows your ability to evaluate MLB players. The Sox gave 20 million dollars to a guy that they decided 6 months later wasn't even worth a quarter of that. They gave 6 million to a guy with injury history and then released him for free because an injury slowed down his year. My point with Murakami is that he was never a part of Getz off-season plans when he set them. He thought a player at the price he was expecting wasn't attainable. So his actual off-season plan going into it was everything he got minus Murakami.

I thought EP had some skills. Too bad.

I think Grichuk is baked in. He's been there all year, and Hays hasn't. Hays can't seem to stay healthy. Pereira looks a bit fragile, also. I was hoping Pereira would break out, Carlos Quentin-like. T'was not to be.

I added Murakami as a success. I also added Kay as a success which was me being very generous, so funny to see this idea that I gave no credit.

But Getz convinced JR to not care about money, so that's a masterful upwards managing job by our GM.

Peters was traded after being DFA. Definitely not a FA signing. Grichuck also a DFA pick up in season so not an offseason FA signing.

I just don’t understand some of these moves, I don’t think you had to trade for any outfielders when we already had Hays and Pereira.

I think just that. He tried to trade both and found no takers. Calling that roster mismanagement is ridiculous. They had a pretty visible roster crunch coming. The fact they were able to pick the guys they wanted and DFA the others is good. As you accept RayRay's description of trades, the Rockies gave us Doyle for free.