WestEddy

Julks-mania!!

As a RF, Eloy is below average. Sheets is a 1B playing RF. Using Fangraphs' 2023 data, Eloy even grades out better than Colas. SSS, of course.

Probably less of a joke than Sheets. And hey, Eloy could get injured, and we could slot somebody else in that DH slot for 10-20 games.

I always wonder if, in a case like this, Katz would brief the hitters on Rodon's tendencies and his tells, or if that's all just run through advanced scouting to verify, or if that is even a thing.

I just went to MLB Trade Rumors, and look at all of this panic going on around the league!!

"Emasculated".

https://x.com/CST_soxvan/status/1791854588036854230

That's pretty wild. Fletcher allegedly did not bet on baseball games, but aren't they all prohibited from betting on any sports?

At least no no-hitter watch tonight.

Very glad to see Shewmake off the 26-man. Now do Maldonado.

referencing "anybody of note" is kind of the giveaway that I'm not thinking I've listed some type of "secret treasure chest". Robbie Grossman brought back a AA bullpen arm. Pham could bring back a slugging OF prospect that isn't overhyped. Fedde and Kopech are probably the names that will bring back the biggest packages. Maybe both, together, bring back something like the Lynn/Kelly package? I think they will move anybody that draws interest.

Nastrini and Cannon. But after their first starts, they came back to Earth. I'm guessing all of DeLoach, Ramos, Colas, Fletcher, Nastrini, Cannon, Thorpe will be on the team through August and September. Seriously, if Flexen, Fedde, Kopech, Pham, Sheets, Keller, Brebbia, Wilson, Leone, Hill, Clevinger, DeJong and .... Vaughn(?) bring back anybody of note, their showcasing will have been a huge success. And everybody ought to prepare themselves for Jared Walsh and Jake Woodford, because he have no 1B close, really, and if they clean house at the TDL, they're going to need starters, yet.

The only kids who got squeezed out were Nastrini, Cannon and Fletcher. Nastrini and Cannon looked like they needed more work, and Fletcher was pressing. Fletcher got more of a time out, and I'd imagine they'll work him back into the mix as Sheets continues to cool off. They have to play the games, so they have to look at this year to the extent that they're managing the roster, and putting the rookies into a better situation where they can be worked into the lineup without feeling like they have to carry the team. The extreme losing was a distraction that had to be toned down. The big slumps look over, so now they could just be a bad team instead of historically bad.

If Grifol wasn't such a bibbledy-babble idiot, we'd probably have a better idea of what they wanted from Fletcher, or why he was back up. I have no idea what they wanted Fletcher to do in AAA, and it seems like he's more of the 4th OF right now. So what? Grifol seems to get everyone on the roster playing time, so I'm not really worried about him getting his reps. Brad Keller is on the roster. He's starting games. If they can return him to the 3-4 WAR pitcher he used to be, and trade him for a prospect, that would be a key part of the future of this team. So, let's see, let Jon Cannon get lit up 6 more times, or showcase a guy who will bring back an outfielder? Your analysis of the "broader strategy" seems to disregard any information that disproves your narrative. Again, I take a "wait and see" attitude towards what Getz is doing. To be complaining about every single move seems panicky and desperate to me.

Sheets, Grossman and Pham are really the only examples of Getz backing off the focus on defense to get more offense in the lineup. That 3-22 start was an emergency situation that required attention. The national spotlight on just how bad they were wasn't good for the rookies. I think Lenyn Sosa and Fletcher were pressing and making some glaring, boneheaded plays because of the pressure to make something happen. I can also understand Getz starting out, thinking he was going to show the league how it's done, and adjusting from that after the horrible start. The team's in a good place right now for a guy like Bryan Ramos to slot in, and he doesn't feel he has to hoist the team up on his back.

I see no problem with keeping a prospect at AAA to get reps and hone their skills out of the spotlight. Colson Montgomery is still at AAA, and I wouldn't call his presence there a massive flop. DeLoach has hit 1 HR at a park that is a launching pad. Fletcher seemed to press on a team that started the season in a horrible slump, and I don't see an issue with taking him back a level to clear his head and reestablish good habits. I see the acquisition of Julks as an opportunity to get a platoon partner and RH bat. The guy they let go is a rookie level bullpen arm that throws an 88-90 mph fastball. He's not a prospect. This move does not fit into your narrative. The Sox just traded 34 year old Robbie Grossman for 23 year old Anthony Hoopii-Tuionetoa. Maybe Getz made a mistake. Or maybe the narrative is silly. You recently called me insane for suggesting that giving vets time to come back from injury or establish themselves as a trade piece does indeed help this team down the road. I'm not sure why.

I saw it as him getting $3-4 million more up front, guaranteeing it, and giving up $7-17 million on the 2 FA years. The White Sox did him a solid by running him out there as a starter. I feel there could be a bit of a hometown discount for that, alone.

First of all, I'm not making up narratives. We are literally in a string where people are complaining about trading a rookie-level bullpen arm they didn't even know existed until they saw the new string. And this happens after every single trade or DFA. So please stop making up BS and tagging me with it. People are ripping Chris Getz in this particular string for an insignificant roster move. Stretching their arguments out to the logical end, the White Sox should never release or trade anybody unless they're getting somebody younger. Even if the younger person has less talent, because all these people are reacting to is the ages. Some guy is even ripping on me for posting a Fangraphs write-up of the guy we traded, because it ruins their narrative. The White Sox have to play the games on their schedule. They need players to do that. Not some A-ball phenom who will fail miserably, but capable vets, or MLB-ready prospects. I understand that your opinion is that the White Sox should be getting progressively younger with each and every move they make. That's not realistic. It's a nice goal, but to use that as an overriding tenet that never gets violated is silly. Every incident that happens in White Sox world isn't a Chris Getz failure. The people who insist on framing every personnel move as part of a troubling pattern aren't being "objective". You are actively whining that the White Sox aren't making more moves that will result in a worse record for the major league club this year, so please don't scold me over a 50-win team. You don't get to have it both ways, using a bad win-loss record to beat me over the head with, while saying that the win-loss record this season doesn't matter. I didn't like the Maldonado signing, and my eyes roll every time I see him in the lineup. Me bitching about it everyday in every single string isn't going to reduce his playing time. That's called being an adult, not "sweeping it under the rug". Ortega is a 4th OF that probably took up space while Dominic Fletcher got his head straight in AAA. Raphael Ortega isn't a "trend". To even pretend that an insignificant roster move to have a 4th OF on the major league team is a problem that bolsters your argument is insane.

I've thought something on the order of 5/10/15/18 million option. This essentially buys out 1-2 years of FA, and he hits actual free agency as a 29-year-old.

These things actually happened. Ask your mom. How in the world would you get that I'm arguing that minor league depth is not important? That's a strawman argument. You do realize that there is a cap on how many minor leaguers a team can have now, right? There's a whole bunch of people who scream and cry when anybody's DFAed or traded, or whatnot, and they post the first couple of starts these players make after leaving the Sox system. But, it's been strangely silent for people criticizing the Oakland organization for DFAing Alex Speas after they claimed him from the Sox. You're just piling on. I reallly don't understand what you're doing with this comment.

The weird thing about people set in their ways - calamity only seems to steel their resolve.

I'm old enough to remember the internet explosion when the Sox traded Jake Peter for somebody. Or released AA pitcher Jordan Guerrero. The same people who scream that minor league depth is soooooooo important that we have to hold onto these guys until they sign up for AARP are the same ones posting laughing emojis when you mention that we're starting to amass some minor league depth. They're screeching points. Nothing more. New Coke.

The players we're calling "prospects" - all teams dump them every day of the season. He's most likely a guy who would have been cut once this year's draftees and FA signings hit the complex in July/August. Or he'd be dropped next week as some other kid recovers from his injury, and is ready to start pitching again.

The Sox offense was so moribund that a utility infielder and 36-year-old OF who can hit made them much better. And they're hanging in there with teams like the Cards, Rays, Nats - teams that can't get out of their own way. We'll see this next week how they'd look against the main teams in the AL this next week.