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Chicago Tribune Opinion piece title tomorrow: I thought 14 White Sox losses in a row was rock bottom. Then I listened to John Schriffen flirting with a teen gymnast.

I feel that if Schriffen did hockey work on the side, he'd ask the color guy why the losing team is pulling the goalie in the last two minutes. He has a very rudimentary knowledge about sports (at best). He's basically just an airhead cheerleader (just like JR likes it).

He's an all star CF with double plus defense and double plus power under control for 3.5 years. They don't grow on trees. You're damn right I'm going to shred Getz if he doesn't get 3 Top 100s including one Top 10. If Robert has a strong month and a half and shows he's back, they absolutely need to get a massive return. If they get lowballed, then hold onto him till the offseason. The return for Cease was approximately 44m SV. I want alot more than that. Alot more. Like about 70m SV.

That too.

On the contrary, he should still be able to fetch a kings ransom so it makes sense to do it now. We need multiple Top 100 position players ASAP. Robert's salaries are only going to escalate from here, so get as much value as you can. They should still be able to get 3 Top 100s including one Top 10.

Nice to see Wolkow with a bomb!

Agreed. Hopefully before the end of the season, the Sox will allow him to go 6 IP a couple times.

I think Tony wanted all the relievers.

Ownership hasn't been mean spirited and dismissive of the fans forever? f*** em. Vote for Maldonado. If character really matters, make it count!

This would be a great way to mock the team. I support it 100%. 2024 All Star Martin Maldonado. Because character matters.

That would be nice but I doubt Jerry will pay him a season and a half's salary for not working.

Thorpe with 7Ks for @baseball_gal_aly

The whole pitching thing turns on whether Schultz can stick as a SP rather than a super reliever. If he sticks, then he's likely an Ace. I think Thorpe is a good bet to be a solid 4 as he has a high floor. So then the thing is out of Nastrini, Eder, Bush, Taylor and Iriarte, can you get at least ONE solid 2 or 3? If you can, then it's a good homegrown staff and you don't need to supplement with too much FA. Schultz staying healthy and being able to go 6 IP is the key to everything.

I dont know what star level would be but I would say Montgomery needs to be 3 WAR or more and the Top 10 player they get for Robert also needs to be 3 WAR or more. I think between Quero, Ramos and the other couple Top 100 bats they get in these Robert, Crochet, Fedde etc trades, they can hopefully get 1-2 2.5 WAR guys. It shouldn't be extremely hard to produce an 85 win team when you probably will have a decent pitching staff.

We're not going to chase A level FAs but with payroll super low next year and with the Sox already scheduling a SoxFest, it suggests we will sign some solid non-scrub FAs to give people something to talk about.

And if we get 2 of our present 4 to be ML regulars, and add 5 Top 100s in the Robert/Crochet/Fedde etc trades...let's say only 2 of the 5 are ML regulars, that's already 4 before taking into account FA signings now that payroll is super low. The whole lineup doesn't have to be good in order for us to be a decent-ish team. The Top 5 or maybe 6 does, but very few teams have anything special in the bottom third of the lineup. Point is, its not going to take a huge undertaking to be an 85 win team that can compete for a wildcard. With a good pitching staff, you've won half the battle already.

He met the two requirements for the position: 1) He came cheap and 2) Agreed to do whatever Hahn wanted

I dont think that's a fantasy land at all. Montgomery and Quero should both be ML regulars at 3B and C respectively (perhaps Quero can platoon with Lee) and there's a decent chance Ramos is too. Gonzalez has made huge strides this year at the plate and most say he will stick at SS. In terms of the rest of the lineup, they need to get one Top 100 OFer and one Top 100 IFer out of Fedde, Crochet, Flexen, Pham, Wilson and Kopech. Crochet by himself should get one of those and maybe Fedde plus some of the others gets you the other. If Robert is moved, we're prolly looking at one Top 10 (positional), and then two other Top 100s (perhaps another positional and another pitcher). That's 4 new Top 100 positional players and the payroll is super low next year. Since they already set a SoxFest for Jan 2025, this implies they will be spending some money. It's when they know they aren't going to do anything do they conspicuously fail to do these events because they don't want to get yelled at. Even if Robert is kept, you prolly have 2 Top 100 position players coming plus some decent FAs. I dont think it will take 5 years to be decent, if we can just execute on some of these trades and signings we should be a middle of the pack team pretty soon if these young pitchers continue to perform.

I'm not writing him off at all, I said earlier even if Fangraphs projection of 45 hit/60 power is true that's still very good at 3B and great at SS once combined with a good OBP. I'm just surprised that given his early struggles BA has him 12th overall. I would have thought something around 30-40 or so.

I'm surprised they still have Colson that high? Do they think he will adjust to velocity?

Do they have updated writeups for each?

His OPS in AAA was nothing special, tho.

Flexen didn't have much in that inning, need to get the BP going.

How long will the rain last? Any local reports?

Quero 3-4 with a HR so far. Gonzalez 1-3 with a BB so far.