SoCalChiSox

When was the last time our payroll was in the 60s?

It depends on who else they would put in the deal and how much they want us to eat. If they threw in another very good piece if we ate all the 2025 salary, then eat it. Our payroll is in the 60s, so I don't see the rationale of not eating money, EVEN IF we have sustained losses the last few years. A payroll anywhere south of 100m is guaranteed to generate huge profits pretty much no matter what...im not sure what dicking around over a 50m payroll vs 65m payroll will accomplish.

Trades don't exist in the abstract, Jimmy. If you are targeting prospects on a specific team you also have to have an appreciation of who you are dealing with and their interests and issues and look at things from their perspective and craft your proposals around that. Cincinnati has budget constraints and if we don't go into the negotiation taking that into account, then were not a serious organization. If we were halfway competent, we would eat the WHOLE 2025 salary if it meant enhancing the return. Our fucking payroll is abysmally low. If you can get Arroyo plus some other good piece too (Petty?) if you eat it all, then eat it all. Our payroll is in the 60s so who gives a f*** if we eat it? Jerry will make a killing with any payroll south of 100 and prolly even south of 150. Get your damn SS already.

Looks like they were targeting exactly who many of us were hoping for so that's good. It's frustrating that they are hung up on eating money when payroll is only in the 60 millions or so. Fucking Jerry.

I'm so sick of this s%*#. I hate them so much. If the Eagles had half a brain, Fangio would make sure to put in a scrub for a couple plays whose sole job is to dive at Mahomes knees and as insurance in case that doesn't work, Philadelphia should hire a PI who hopefully catches Goodell doing things he shouldn't to blackmail him into ordering the officials to ensure the Eagles win. Take off the gloves. Get it done. I dont care what it takes.

Good. Go get Arroyo....eat 5m of Robert's salary to enhance the return....that will still result in a net savings of 10m for Jerry.

At least we are actively trying to take advantage of what's going on with Sasaki. Quality addition. Maybe we can trade the rest of our money and something else to LAD for Zyhir Hope.

Nix had 29 TDs to 12 INTs, 66% completion percentage and got exponentially better over the course of the season. People can dog him if they like but I'm personally very happy that he is my teams QB.

Ohio State will win by a comfortable margin. NDs offense isn't going to generate any TOP and will go 3 and out often. This will put alot of pressure on the defense and eventually they will tire and the dam will break. I'm thinking 27-10 or 31-13. I hate both teams a ton (I support Miami), but at least Freeman is a likeable guy. Day is a douche.

CIN sure are loading up on infielders....does this mean they are ready to trade us Arroyo now?

I agree Ohio State is the likely champ.

Vance Joseph served as HC for the Broncos previously. He was fired not long into his tenure and was replaced by Vic Fangio (Joseph is a rah-rah motivational players coach, when that didn't work they went to the other extreme with the HC as old school Woody Hayes style dictator leadership style with Fangio, that didn't work either and ofcourse Hackett was an embarrassment when they swung back in the other direction). Joseph then returned to Denver as DC under Sean Payton and he is doing well in that role for us. It has turned out not to be awkward as people thought bringing back the former HC of the club to serve as DC for the team under a later HC. He has done well as DC. He's a good DC that really didn't do well at all as HC. I dont know if its a Peter Principle issue or he just wasn't ready. If you guys hire him, it's basically to be Caleb Williams buddy. He's a players coach. Sometimes that works, Pete Carroll is a players coach too but Carroll is an effective HC and is a good CEO. I dont think VJ is but who knows.

Go Broncos....on to Buffalo!

This isn't the Phillies trade I was waiting for.

There was an article basically saying he didn't want to spend even if ownership authorized it.

Hopefully Robert market gets moving now

Come on Philly....Crawford and Rincon.

Get Freeland and Hope from LAD

No. Miller and/or Crawford are the key bats people want from Philly

Kepler is supposed to be their everyday LF, so theoretically they should still be in for Robert. I bet Caba is someone Getz wanted though and they moved him for Luzardo so yeah that could complicate it, but I suspect PHI probably wasn't going to give up both Caba and Crawford for Robert anyway. Crawford plus a lower end prospect still might be a viable deal.

That dude killed us glad he's gone.

Even tho alot of people think Baty will eventually be a pretty good hitter, his profile isn't what Getz wants, for better or for worse. Right now Getz wants up the middle SS and CF types with good gloves and good to decent speed on the basepaths. So I think he is gonna want Williams as the top piece and Acuna as the second. If he has to sell relatively low on Robert, then he's gonna try to get two pieces that NYM will also need to sell low on and hope he's filled two big holes with bounceback seasons from them.

It's interesting that Getz is putting a heavy emphasis on pitching (in terms of asset acquisition and also where they spend their money in terms of infrastructure, i.e. Bannister) even in light of this...

Yeah I expect this as well unless someone is truly desperate (like BOS was).

In a trade with NYM, I bet Getz wants Jett Williams and/or Acuna.