SoCalChiSox

https://x.com/HotStoveintel/status/1805876001903083953?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet mlbexecutiveburner says now that Skenes graduated Noah Schultz is top pitching prospect in baseball and it's not even close.

Hopefully Iriarte fixed the tipping issue.

Greg....how can he be in the rotation for 3-4 years when we only have him for 1.5 more years, JR doesn't pay pitchers and Fedde isn't going to sign a two year deal after proving his worth and oh there's the whole our lineup is dog s%*# so we need to flip whoever we can for young positional talent part too.

Yeah that would be fine....get a nice 50 position player that has a decent bat.

Seems like it will be one of Cags, Whetherholt or Griffin.

Crawford would be a nice get if we could pry him from PHI...but would require alot more than Kopech + DeJong.

Florida survives to finally vanquish Edmonton. McDavid got the Conn Smythe anyway...not that it's much consolation to him.

Just a couple weeks ago Eder was like the only milb Sox pitcher that Aly was consistently being positive about. Lulz

Good for Big George! Bush prolly will get called up once the first SP is moved, imo

I feel bad for him at this point. Bye Mom

Ahh my bad, I thought you were advocating for Getz singles and speed beliefs. How else will we acquire legit bats? We're not going to spend a ton of money and where we spend it's not going to be high end bats, so it largely has to be trades or draft. Even two FA bats will prolly be of the 12m-15m per year variety on relatively short deals...those usually aren't particularly good bats.

A lineup of limpdick singles hitters doesn't skin many cats.

Perhaps that's why Harold is strongly saying they are in on Caglianone despite the 1B profile and implied he will be prolly be the guy if he's there. They need to get legit hitters not slap hitting garbage in quantity deals. If in fact teams aren't going to trade Top 100 bats (and I still don't believe that's totally true) then you gotta focus your draft on it in an overwhelming way.

We can't just keep collecting pitching. We need to get impact position players. Not 2-3 45s and hope and pray one of them pans out. The idea that every GM that is in the thick of a playoff push, and needs cost controlled pitching and some of them might be worried about their job but somehow every single one or almost every single one is going to say I'll give you a good pitching prospect but not a good position player of the same general quality is kind of a stretch. Do they break less frequently? Sure. Are many of these GMs going to go down with the ship at the deadline out of principle? Prolly not.

Jimmy said a Top 100......I'd rather take a single Top 100 than 2 45s.

The Cease trade was almost identical value based on that site (44m return vs 42m given up) and I think the Burnes trade was pretty close too.

Depends on new ownership. If Elias has nothing to work with besides prospects he will hug prospects. If he has a legit budget, he may be willing to trade prospects particularly those who provide most of their value in the bat.

If he can hit 30+ bombs from the left side that would be great, but all the value is in the bat. If he turns out not to be a monster masher due to chase or groundballs or whatever, then you've got nothing to show for the pick. High risk high reward.

Fedde + Crochet will require multiple things BAL is unwilling to pay. Crochet alone will also require multiple things BAL is unwilling to pay. If BAL wants Crochet by himself, it would likely take both Kjerstad and Cowser

As Jimmy has mentioned it will take more than Beavers to get Fedde

Fedde + Banks has substantial value. Obviously, if Crochet is the headliner, that could easily net Kjerstad but it would also require much more from the O's.....more than Elias is willing to pay. So then the issue becomes if Chicago won't take Kjerstad as the headliner in a Robert/Crochet trade...what else do u need to add to Fedde for Kjerstad. I think Fedde and Banks is a pretty good offer. Ofcourse we are also dealing with a prospect hugging team so logic doesn't matter.

Ugh...sell Fedde for power. Have they not figured out that there's only so much a limpdick style offense can do? Fedde should be in a package for Kjerstad.

I doubt anyone will offer a Top 30 overall for Fedde, but alot of folks, including Jimmy think he will fetch a Top 100.

What kind of package would you accept for him at the deadline?

I agree he's lost value but I'm still not giving him up for approx 44m in SV. With a very low BABIP, I expect him to have a sizzling (and hopefully healthy) second half and then hopefully teams will make better offers (60+m SV).