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Vance Joseph served as HC for the Broncos previously. He was fired not long into his tenure and was replaced by Vic Fangio (Joseph is a rah-rah motivational players coach, when that didn't work they went to the other extreme with the HC as old school Woody Hayes style dictator leadership style with Fangio, that didn't work either and ofcourse Hackett was an embarrassment when they swung back in the other direction). Joseph then returned to Denver as DC under Sean Payton and he is doing well in that role for us. It has turned out not to be awkward as people thought bringing back the former HC of the club to serve as DC for the team under a later HC. He has done well as DC. He's a good DC that really didn't do well at all as HC. I dont know if its a Peter Principle issue or he just wasn't ready. If you guys hire him, it's basically to be Caleb Williams buddy. He's a players coach. Sometimes that works, Pete Carroll is a players coach too but Carroll is an effective HC and is a good CEO. I dont think VJ is but who knows.

Go Broncos....on to Buffalo!

This isn't the Phillies trade I was waiting for.

There was an article basically saying he didn't want to spend even if ownership authorized it.

Hopefully Robert market gets moving now

Come on Philly....Crawford and Rincon.

Get Freeland and Hope from LAD

No. Miller and/or Crawford are the key bats people want from Philly

Kepler is supposed to be their everyday LF, so theoretically they should still be in for Robert. I bet Caba is someone Getz wanted though and they moved him for Luzardo so yeah that could complicate it, but I suspect PHI probably wasn't going to give up both Caba and Crawford for Robert anyway. Crawford plus a lower end prospect still might be a viable deal.

That dude killed us glad he's gone.

Even tho alot of people think Baty will eventually be a pretty good hitter, his profile isn't what Getz wants, for better or for worse. Right now Getz wants up the middle SS and CF types with good gloves and good to decent speed on the basepaths. So I think he is gonna want Williams as the top piece and Acuna as the second. If he has to sell relatively low on Robert, then he's gonna try to get two pieces that NYM will also need to sell low on and hope he's filled two big holes with bounceback seasons from them.

It's interesting that Getz is putting a heavy emphasis on pitching (in terms of asset acquisition and also where they spend their money in terms of infrastructure, i.e. Bannister) even in light of this...

Yeah I expect this as well unless someone is truly desperate (like BOS was).

In a trade with NYM, I bet Getz wants Jett Williams and/or Acuna.

Ugh

Getz already said he isn't going to give him away just because of last year so I doubt he will accept 13m SV for him. He seemed to suggest it was "refreshing" that other GMs seemed to agree that he had more value than just recent results. Interestingly, Arroyo from the Reds and Petty from the Reds both have around 13m SV each, so thats around 26-27 combined, I think most of us would take those two for Robert for sure, especially if our scouts believe Arroyo can not just stick at SS but be above average there.

You get what you pay for.

I highly doubt we can pull both Arroyo and Petty from CIN and I doubt Krall will even give up Arroyo alone.

I would.

On the one hand that's pretty good money for a 1B/DH. On the other hand, in this market, he could probably get more if he has another good season.

Meidroth must be featured prominently.

If Q is coming back does this mean they are pretty much ready to ship Robert or Beni out so as to keep the payroll relatively neutral?

Breslow is trying to please both of his constituencies here. He has to keep FSG, Henry and Kennedy happy with lower payrolls, but he also has to keep the fanbase from rioting by adding multiple quality SPers, so they aren't gonna spend money but they will spend prospects and non-essential roster pieces.

I'd be absolutely floored if they got BOTH Arroyo and Petty for Robert.

Collier has a great bat and id love to have him, but Getz isn't going to want 50 different 3B, imo I believe he is laser focused on SS and CF. Basically I think he is waiting for either CIN to agree to Arroyo or PHI to agree to Crawford, whichever blinks first.