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Unfortunately, it seems you may be correct.

He should but Getz would lose face....so he'll start as the platoon RF on the big club.

Perhaps "let's trust Bannister" is no longer a good reason to justify stuff like the Mena trade or the guys they got from SD. One of his key jobs was to save Kopech and he already failed.

Not when you are being offered lame returns.

So? If everyone's offering dog s%*#, I'm not giving Getz a medal just because he did somewhat better than that. It's a poor return on a premium asset. Dude got weak knees and jelly legs and let Preller own him. There's little risk taking him into the season if you aren't being offered anything. If he gets hurt, you don't lose much because you weren't offered much. I'm supposed to crown this guy because he got 70 cents on the dollar when he was being offered 50 cents? Nah. f*** him. He's a clown, Harold. I know you hate Hahn but that doesn't magically transform Getz into anything other than a fucking clown. His return is lame and his work is substandard.

In terms of SV, SD gave up 44 for 42, so I suppose in that respect it's "fair" but I would have expected a larger premium than just 2m. I think the main problem is the allocation of the 44m. I'd prefer more quality than quantity. I'd rather have Snelling, Zavala and someone worth about 8m than Iriarte and the reliever. I would have preferred holding him till July and taking the injury risk as opposed to getting what we did.

LMAO @ Aly claiming she never saw control for him over 55 anywhere and fangraphs (presumably the first place one would look) has it at 70. I'm not a fan of Thorpe as the headliner or this trade overall, but she is either arguing in outright bad faith, or is trying to be the female Ron.

Did the FO like funnel money to them or something?

If they were really focused on pitching they should have come away with Snelling. The opposing GM is at extreme risk of being fired and good SP thats cost controlled is at a premium. Getz got the ball first and goal at the 5 and ended up making a 45 yard field goal after a couple dumb calls and a holding penalty.

Of all the return, Zavala is the most promising. Still disappointed/pissed at the overall return.

Yeah I fully expect TJS shortly and Preller laughing at us. Again.

Thanks, Chris.

This is fair. C or C-. I'm not impressed by Getz work and I have no clue why Harold is constantly praising him.

Nah. This is on balance relatively weak. Snelling should be the headliner. Zavala is interesting and very advanced for age. Wish he had more power projection. I wouldn't say Preller destroyed Getz, but he did, at a minimum, give him a bad cold. Either way, I think @Balta1701 and @baseball_gal_aly are basically right on balance. Sad but true.

It appears you and Aly had the better of the argument. Congrats.

Ehh...

Still waiting to be impressed...

Still ain't steep. Waiting for Snelling or savagery...Head ain't savagery.

Then Getz got destroyed. I'm starting to fume....

If Thorpe is the headliner and there's no other Top 100s....Balta and Aly are correct.

Waiting for the headliner.... Thorpe better not be it

Need Snelling as the headliner. Thorpe is not a headliner. That's not steep at all Aly might still be right.

Snelling and Thorpe are 44m SV combined. Not saying they are or are not headliners but if Getz wants a SP heavy deal those would make sense..

Hopefully multiple notable prospects is not code for "quantity deal" I need savages!

Snelling plus volume is fine I guess. Thorpe plus volume is not.