vilehoopster

This is a good point.

His ERA is 4.01. So that means if he's had four good games, he's also had some real clunkers, including his last two.

Can we please get a good game from Martin today?? Not an okay game, a GOOD game. Please. He was my predicted Sox all-star coming out of spring training; and so far, he has been underwhelming.

Or the cry of people who want to believe that things can and will get better so they can continue to love the team that they have loved for years. You have to hold on to hope or why watch, or post on this board?

Serious question: Let's say he keeps tearing it up, but of course not at a .405 level, but still looks great in AA and AAA. Is having him in Chicago by next June, would that be rushing him? I would say no, but want to hear from other of what's a reasonable landing time in Chicago.

I don't know, but how many million miracle wins has Norte Dame had over the years in the shadow of Touchdown Jesus at South Bend? Just tons and tons of them. I gotta believe there's some help coming our way . . . . maybe just a little.

We see the picture of him at the 2005 World Series, so I'm guessing Paul Kokerko is up high on his list.

The Pope and the various Cardinals have already entered into conversations with the Lord Above. The Pope and others implored God what actions need to take place to start to move the world in a better and more heavenly direction. So far, the Pontiff and the College of Cardinals have only recieved a three-word directive from God: Jerry, Equos Vende!

No one is bringing up the famous one. Didn't Jose Canseco have one bounce off his head for a home run (a double)?

We already have a game thread. And there's a "That's a Sox winner" thread from yesterday that's four pages. Just examples of how we just WANT and enjoy some wins. We want to be excited; we want to be proud of the team that we have followed for years and years. Dammit, just give us something, SOMETHING; not the worst team in the history of MLB. What was that emotion I felt when Vargas hit that home run yesterday . . . . . Joy!! Actual joy! I just want to feel that more often. Can't this organization just give us that a little more often? Just a little something (hope?) to get us to 2027 and beyond?

The announcers keep quoting this stat, "hard hit percentage" to justify his terrible stats and and say it's just bad luck. But hard hit balls and hard hit percentage?? Can't that just be justified by his uncountable number or warning track flyouts. He has soooo maaany of those throughout his career. Don't all those warning track flyouts, aren't those being counted as "hard hit balls". To me, that's not bad luck: with Vaughn, it's a guy who when the aluminum bat is taken away, he only has warning track power.

I remember people suggesting, when the Sox re-signed him, to just DFA him and be done with him. I really thought this was extreme and showed a lack of patience and understanding of how long it takes some players to develop. But I am with those people now. I am done with Vaughn, done. He's just terrible. Let's be honest, and I know this is complete conjecture; but how many MORE games would the Sox have won with year with Vaughn gone at the start of the year, and the Sox sharing 1st base with whoever: Sosa, Vargas, our other catcher, whoever? I say having his weak bat and terrible defense and baserunning gone from the lineup; even this early in the season, it's, at least, two games. Two more wins already with Vaughn gone from the start. And with a team scrapping to win whatever they can, two more wins are significant. Let's look at it this way. Let's say he heats up the 2nd half of the season like last year. So what, that means he's going to get semi-hot and get his batting stats up to only below average. Again, I am done with him.

I said this when he names Burke as opening day starter. I thought that was crazy then, and Venable hasn't done anything to change my mind on that.

The only thing he could have done to "F" was a double play ball and he does it. DFA him!!!! He is TERRIBLE!!!!

DFA Vaughn and bring up Elko right after this game. NOW!!!!

I am with you here 100% -- Both comments. Also, if anyone complains about Dalbec playing short, I am great with him playing there. It makes me sick that the Sox regularly playing guys batting UNDER .100. We had to watch it last year with Maldonado. I just scream at my TV every time Amaya comes up to the plate battling less than .100.

So your point is that you're sick of seeing a young, inexperienced player not make a play, after you have continually complained about the Sox playing older players who have no upside and we need to be playing younger players from the system. I get it now: you're pissed off that you got what you wanted, but it this case it didn't work out, so you're sick of it. Okay, I see it now.

1. My point is that the White Sox were better than Boston over this weekend. So how about, oh, I don't know . . . . . ., actually enjoying that it happened. 2. Shane Smith should have left the game giving up one less run than Crochet. And also, that as Crochet contends for that Cy Young, there might be some of those votes going to a young, former Rule 5 pick, from Chicago.

With all this talk about how great Crochet is and how much the White Sox suck, people seem to be forgetting that if Baldwin (an inexperienced outfielder, especially at Rate Field) catches that very catchable deep fly in RF when there were two outs; if he had caught that, there's probably a 50/50 chance, at best for Boston, that Crochet ends the day taking a 1 to 0 loss, and Boston leaves town being swept.

Do you have a issue with hypocrisy? Because I do. Lynn can't, years after the fact, come on and complain about the management problems and imply that he cared about winning when he was with the Sox; when it is absolutely clear that he didn't care about winning at all. Lynn knew, KNEW that if he lost weight, he would be a better pitcher and help his team win (teams, both the Sox and the Dodgers). But he did nothing to lose that weight and just joked about it when asked by the press. He certainly was thankful for Sox management when they silenced/ shamed Steve Stone because Stone said that Lynn would have better stamina or something like go longer in the game or whatever. I remember that Stone was silenced and (I think) halfway apoligized, even though Stone was 100% corrrect, and he was being kind the way he said it. This coming out of Lynn's mouth, however valid, is total BS and just another example of his weakness of character.

Another 3 and 22 start is looking very possible.

With two outs you leave at the crack of the bat. He would have been safe easily.

You are f-ing kidding me. We can't even run the bases. Just incredible, Incredible.

It will be tough for anyone, ALL YEAR, to have a worse at bat then Robert did just then. Just pathetic.

As so switching out flotsam for jetsam begins... They will save the season. You can be sarcastic, but I think both of those moves are big (potentially huge) improvements. Depending how quickly Drury gets here, that's potentially (likey??) 20 more home runs.