vilehoopster

I would say a lot of overreacting on here today. Rojas has been hurt and has not played very much. To give up on him and imply he has no value seems silly. Will he be great? Probably not, but he will be very solid as the season progresses and his batting improves (becomes less bad). I was not happy about Elko going down; and I agree, that pinch hitting for after an HR made no sense. But I think the Sox are far, far from giving up on him. I have to believe that Sox have plans for him at 1st base in the future; he's just showing too much promise to be ignored. I think partly, that he was moved down to allow all of Getz's FA pickups to play, so he can justify their being here, both to Jerry and the fans.

Did Taylor really, literally say anything like "I have not regrets" about that play. Because if he did, I really have a problem with him and him remaining a member of the White Sox.

In yesterday's lineup, the 8 & 9 hitters were Sosa and Rojas. Today, they were Taylor and Capra. That's a huge difference in your last two batters in they lineup. I know Rojas is at .149, but that's a mile better than .073.

This is a terrible loss, terrible. Just like the final game of the Seattle series, winning this game today would have been HUGE, sweep a team that two years ago won the World Series. Instead, another game showing things haven't changed: lose because of the bullpen and dumbass plays in the 9th inning. And, it all starts with Venable putting out a BS lineup for the 3rd game of the series, just like Seattle. Will, QUIT DOING THAT in the 3rd game of a series when the Sox really have a chance to show that things are different this year Now, I fully expect to get swept by the Mets.

Hey, Getz Haters. I think we have to start looking at the very real possibility that the Sox won the Vargas trade. Not broke even, but won. How is Kopech doing for the Dodgers this year. And Fedde, very average. Yeah, a win.

It's to the point where if Robert gets a hit, I'm truely surprised.

This is a good point.

His ERA is 4.01. So that means if he's had four good games, he's also had some real clunkers, including his last two.

Can we please get a good game from Martin today?? Not an okay game, a GOOD game. Please. He was my predicted Sox all-star coming out of spring training; and so far, he has been underwhelming.

Or the cry of people who want to believe that things can and will get better so they can continue to love the team that they have loved for years. You have to hold on to hope or why watch, or post on this board?

Serious question: Let's say he keeps tearing it up, but of course not at a .405 level, but still looks great in AA and AAA. Is having him in Chicago by next June, would that be rushing him? I would say no, but want to hear from other of what's a reasonable landing time in Chicago.

I don't know, but how many million miracle wins has Norte Dame had over the years in the shadow of Touchdown Jesus at South Bend? Just tons and tons of them. I gotta believe there's some help coming our way . . . . maybe just a little.

We see the picture of him at the 2005 World Series, so I'm guessing Paul Kokerko is up high on his list.

The Pope and the various Cardinals have already entered into conversations with the Lord Above. The Pope and others implored God what actions need to take place to start to move the world in a better and more heavenly direction. So far, the Pontiff and the College of Cardinals have only recieved a three-word directive from God: Jerry, Equos Vende!

No one is bringing up the famous one. Didn't Jose Canseco have one bounce off his head for a home run (a double)?

We already have a game thread. And there's a "That's a Sox winner" thread from yesterday that's four pages. Just examples of how we just WANT and enjoy some wins. We want to be excited; we want to be proud of the team that we have followed for years and years. Dammit, just give us something, SOMETHING; not the worst team in the history of MLB. What was that emotion I felt when Vargas hit that home run yesterday . . . . . Joy!! Actual joy! I just want to feel that more often. Can't this organization just give us that a little more often? Just a little something (hope?) to get us to 2027 and beyond?

The announcers keep quoting this stat, "hard hit percentage" to justify his terrible stats and and say it's just bad luck. But hard hit balls and hard hit percentage?? Can't that just be justified by his uncountable number or warning track flyouts. He has soooo maaany of those throughout his career. Don't all those warning track flyouts, aren't those being counted as "hard hit balls". To me, that's not bad luck: with Vaughn, it's a guy who when the aluminum bat is taken away, he only has warning track power.

I remember people suggesting, when the Sox re-signed him, to just DFA him and be done with him. I really thought this was extreme and showed a lack of patience and understanding of how long it takes some players to develop. But I am with those people now. I am done with Vaughn, done. He's just terrible. Let's be honest, and I know this is complete conjecture; but how many MORE games would the Sox have won with year with Vaughn gone at the start of the year, and the Sox sharing 1st base with whoever: Sosa, Vargas, our other catcher, whoever? I say having his weak bat and terrible defense and baserunning gone from the lineup; even this early in the season, it's, at least, two games. Two more wins already with Vaughn gone from the start. And with a team scrapping to win whatever they can, two more wins are significant. Let's look at it this way. Let's say he heats up the 2nd half of the season like last year. So what, that means he's going to get semi-hot and get his batting stats up to only below average. Again, I am done with him.

I said this when he names Burke as opening day starter. I thought that was crazy then, and Venable hasn't done anything to change my mind on that.

The only thing he could have done to "F" was a double play ball and he does it. DFA him!!!! He is TERRIBLE!!!!

DFA Vaughn and bring up Elko right after this game. NOW!!!!

I am with you here 100% -- Both comments. Also, if anyone complains about Dalbec playing short, I am great with him playing there. It makes me sick that the Sox regularly playing guys batting UNDER .100. We had to watch it last year with Maldonado. I just scream at my TV every time Amaya comes up to the plate battling less than .100.

So your point is that you're sick of seeing a young, inexperienced player not make a play, after you have continually complained about the Sox playing older players who have no upside and we need to be playing younger players from the system. I get it now: you're pissed off that you got what you wanted, but it this case it didn't work out, so you're sick of it. Okay, I see it now.

1. My point is that the White Sox were better than Boston over this weekend. So how about, oh, I don't know . . . . . ., actually enjoying that it happened. 2. Shane Smith should have left the game giving up one less run than Crochet. And also, that as Crochet contends for that Cy Young, there might be some of those votes going to a young, former Rule 5 pick, from Chicago.

With all this talk about how great Crochet is and how much the White Sox suck, people seem to be forgetting that if Baldwin (an inexperienced outfielder, especially at Rate Field) catches that very catchable deep fly in RF when there were two outs; if he had caught that, there's probably a 50/50 chance, at best for Boston, that Crochet ends the day taking a 1 to 0 loss, and Boston leaves town being swept.