Look at Ray Ray Run

I'm not defending it, but I'm also not blowing it up like most. The fact is, we gave the 30th ranked prospect twice as much money. We gave him that, and if we traded him tomorrow (he's still only 20 years old) no one would blink. Obviously he's played poorly, but still. We traded a guy that was a lottery ticket and the Padres hit the jackpot. Crediting Preller with some diabolical plan to get Tatis because of his super human scouting abilities is just laughable given the timeline I laid out. The trade sucked, but I'd be the greatest GM of all time if hindsight was allowed. 999 out of 1000 times, you trade a guy like Tatis at that time and you never hear of him again. That's a fact. The Sox caught the one time. Shit happens.

Story has never made sense anyway.... so the Padres owner got involved because the price was so low and then ended up paying expected market value from the start? Not buying it. Amazing how unlikable such a worthless franchise is to me now.

No. You said Latina American players. Manny machado is American. He was born and raised in the USA and went to US high school. Hes not a Latin American prospect no matter how Mmany times people want to continue to spew it. I have Irish in me. I was born in America. If the white Sox signed me, you wouldnt be talking about the white Sox Irish pipeline. My lord.

Manny Machado is from southern Florida.

My goodness - what are you rambling about? Preller didn't think Tatis was some superstar in the making - if he did, he would have signed him for 1 million or 900k. That's all it cost. It's not as if Preller was secretly scouting him during the practices and games that didn't take place. Yes, so Preller was at White Sox Dominican training facility scouting the White Sox signees. You can't make this shit up. . I've already asked you to point to all these Latin American stars that Preller has signed, but none of them exist so you were unable to do it. By the way; the Padres prospect rankings, and signing of guys like Urias, means absolutely nothing in this situation. You bring it up to prove your point that Preller must have known something when in fact, Preller had a chance to sign him for peanuts and didn't. Preller got lucky. EOS.

Caufield, please stop pushing this nonsensical BS when it comes to Tatis. I have corrected you on this 100 times, but you keep singing the praises of the genius that is AJ Preller which is just laughable. Here are the facts: Fernando Tatis Jr was signed by the Chicago White Sox on July 2nd, 2015. He was the 27! ranked IFA out of 30. The White Sox signed him for $825,000. The irony is, Paddy is credited with the signing. ANYONE could have had Tatis, including Preller. He passed on him and didn't want to offer him 1 million. On June 4th, of 2016, without Tatis playing a single professional game for the White Sox, he was traded to the Padres. He was a wild card ticket for the Padres. If they thought he was a top elite prospect they would have signed him 8 months earlier for 1 million dollars. There's nothing they could have possibly seen with him not playing... that would lean to them trading for him. The White Sox actually gave the 30 ranked player that year (Franklin Reyes) 1.5 million to sign with them. Tatis was TINY, I will say that.

I'm not worried because its uh... February. Jeeze Sox fans. Its baseball.

Lol it's two games.

Jack, the Sox aren't drawing under 1 million fans. My goodness.

Why do you keep saying this? Preller didnt know a lot more about tatis. He could have signed him for next to nothing.

Nah, the report will be that Boras never called back but that they were prepared to offer the best deal by far!

Will be funny if Boras doesnt even give a final bid and Sox are just sitting there waiting for the call while the news announces his signing.

Giants will go 10 for 350. Ownership doesnt just talk - when they want someone they get him. Giants gonna be saddled with big bad contracts all over the place.

I have said 100000 times the Sox are out on Harper and anyone holding on to hope is a dope. that was a joke of what could have been white Sox 4d chess.

Alright, for all the optimist let me give you a scenario in which this would be the White Sox playing 4D chess - they're not this smart, but this would have been genius. White Sox set Bryce Harper as their target at the beginning of the offseason. They make the big presentation, and love it. They come out of that thinking Harper is not going to sign early because of what Boras did last year. They see it's just them, the Phillies and Nationals seriously in on Harper at the time, and outside shot with Dodgers but probably not. Sox also meet with Machado but dont like him as much. Work ethic, knees and etc maybe dumb Sox concerns. Bat is good but not world class. Risk with aging and defense going faster. They start getting named the leaders for machado because they offer 8 for 250, and wanted Bryce. He fits the mold they want etc etc. They start leaking low offers like the 175 trying to get the Phillies to go over. They never buy in. Sox see San Diego and find a way out. They counter with the 2 dumb incentive years. Would make sense why SD didnt think they'd land him. Thought Sox would up 8 at 250 but instead just offered two bogus years. Meanwhile, Phillies don't get him so Sox are pissed. Also pissed because they realize how dumb they look pretending to be all in on machado. A 13 million dollar head fake gone wrong. They reposition and now arent sure how high they have to go for Harper. Phillies were talking stupid money and are out on machado. Sox thought that was the Phillies guy. Now they're competing with them and cant fail because the fanbase thought they screwed up the machado sweepstakes when it was the 4d chess plan to suppress the Harper market to them and... no one like it is now, by handing machado to the Phillies. But the Padres fucked that up. Sox play pr disaster control, and try to get it knocked away with Harper asap without anyone leaking the true plan or information. White Sox 4d chess. Lol

I dont think any of this matters - union wants the most money - but man... when I was playing baseball and my best friend too - I'd have taken less money if we're talking tens of millions to play in the same city for a decade. It would be so much fun to have had gone through that with him.

Crawford and Heyward weren't shocking to me. Sizemore was all injuries so that just happens - kid was an animal. Chavez was kind of like Heyward - lot of defensive value.

Padres - no Sox - out Nats - out How could Harper's number be getting too big?? No one is even bidding. Wtf

I'm not happy pal, but it's a game and stuff happens. Rationally speaking it's not the end of the rebuild and huge contracts arent always great. I'm disappointed too but it's not some fan breaking sin.

Machado is awesome but he is absolutely not a guaranteed HOF'er. Sizemore and Chavez are two guys you can look at - no baseball much? Sizemore was better his first four years than Manny. Chavez started out on fire. Nothing is guaranteed.

Eh, I thought his stake was a little larger. He clearly answers to some people... he doesnt have a majority share - he just has the largest share. I dont know if it actually matters or impacts things but I do wonder it...

Donate that $500 to a good cause. Plenty of people could use the assistance. Dont waste it on some billboard that accomplishes nothing.

Lol why? Its their own fault. Sox let everyone know very clearly they were not bidding on Harper. People who chose to ignore that are fools seeking misery and disappointment.

Jerry only owns 19% of the White Sox... my curiosity has had me wondering if Jerry is the face so he takes the fall for investors saying thanks but no thanks.

I think Anderson is going to destroy that number. Tim goes 3.5+ WAR this year.