poppysox

I had the same reaction.☺️

I imagine it just depends on how badly we need a Burnes vs the value we place on Madrigal and Heuer on the current roster along with the future of Kelley and Stiever. Since we can find adequate #4 from the list you mention...I wouldn't be inclined to make that trade. Our 4 guys are all cheap with lots of upsides as is Burnes. It's doesn't have the advantage in unloading expensive vets for a young gun. I do understand some of you think nothing of Madrigal but we will just continue to disagree on that one.

I was asked which of those players had the "potential" to be all-stars. I of course don't believe they "will" all be all-stars. As so often happens here on Soxtalk...an innocent remark is taken way too seriously and back and forth we go.

This is where most of us are as well I would think. Another pitcher would be great but not essential. We would like some clarity on the backup catcher and DH. I still am hopeful that JR has a big surprise up his sleeve but we shall see.

That was in my first answer to the question being asked. You just focused on the first part of my answer instead of the entire answer.

Nope...it means what I said. "I am not anxious to trade prospects when similar guys are available in FA."

If the young guys develop under Katz as we hope...we are going to have some very nice problems to have.

I think it is clear that JR is in the buy mode. If we only discuss what we know for sure...these pages will be very quiet.

I know! More fun to be optimistic though.

The names being tossed around for Burnes include Madrigal, Kelley, Heuer, and Stiever. All of them with AS potential. No one thought McCann had AS potential but they were wrong. Bottom line...I am not anxious to trade prospects when similar guys are available in free agency.

Being a very bias fan who would love to see it. Secondly, Bauer would only take us up into the 150s which is doable in JR's current mindset. Lastly, I don't think Bauer is going to be quite as expensive as we first thought. RH is very creative if he wants a guy bad enough. I'm not predicting it...just saying it wouldn't surprise me.

I think there is a good chance...at least I'm hoping so.

Would not at all surprise me. JR is planning to go out with a bang. At least I hope so.

3 of our top 10.

I believe JR has planned to go all-in for the big last hurrah of his ownership. I don't believe TL would have exited retirement except for his being promised a loaded team. With free agency and trade markets moving slowly...this is one year we fans can dream as big as we desire IMO.

Comparable to what we got for Sale IMO. Not interested.

Yermin Mercedes would get my curiosity peaked. When else are we going to see if he's worth a place on the 40 man roster? We might turn Yermin into a tradable chip of some worth if we can't use him ourselves.

Kluber is intriguing if the price is right. This is where good old fashion scouting comes in.

I say no. Madrigal & Heuer are needed on our club. Free agency has quality pitchers available without giving up anyone.

I would be fine with either. Collins wouldn't be getting enough work for his development IMO.

Well put.

Awesome!

I agree. Use free-agency to find your pitcher. There are TOR guys and back of rotation guys that cost nothing but money. Let Katz do his work and for goodness sakes...stop with the Madrigal/Vaughn trade ideas. I understand that anyone can be traded but this trading 3 top prospects for 1 perceived TOR guy is not how to build a perennial winner.

Sign Bauer and keep Kelley, Madrigal, and Heuer.

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