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  1. I read this as Nancy applied to play the anthem for the Cubs, and was turned down as they didn't plan to play it regularly and had someone to do it when they do. Not sure how anyone asking to play the anthem during the Viet Nam War could be anti-anthem. Pointing out that teams haven't always played the National Anthem before games, even in fairly recent history, isn't anti-anthem. Its pro-historical truth. Fun fact: There was also a period of time in the mid 80's when the White Sox often played "America the Beautiful" instead of "The Star Spangled Banner" before home games at Comiskey Park,
  2. Just a few random thoughts: If the Sox were in the East in 1972 there is a very good chance they make the playoffs. And they played very evenly against Oakland that year, so they could have possibly won a five game series and made it to the World Series. That would have had a major effect on popularity and attendance, which could have changed the possible move to Seattle, which may have eliminated the need for Veeck to swoop in, which may have eliminated the sale to Reinsdorf and Einhorn down the line. Lot's of maybe's here, but an interesting butterfly effect. The AL had a unbalanced schedule until the Sea/Tor expansion, so lots of Sox road games after 9 pm on a weak UHF channel while the Cubs were playing home day games and lots of road games on the East coast at 6 pm on WGN 9. The kids from that era became the adults that packed Wrigley starting in the late 80's. For some reason the '69 expansion completely protected the Cubs. Not only did they keep the Cardinals rivalry, but both teams were put in the East division , while the Braves and Reds, who play in the Eastern time zone were pushed to the West division for some reason. Yet the Sox were put in the West in the first place and kept there when the Senators moved west.
  3. Completely inaccurate. The stadium offered was to be shared with the Bears. Reinsdorf agreed. The Bears refused and killed it. WHITE SOX NEAR ACCORD ON SOUTH LOOP STADIUM - Chicago Tribune
  4. If I read this correctly, the owners are offering full pay even if they can't open the stadiums fully for a lot of the season, adding the DH to the NL, and only asking for another round of playoffs for this season as the trade off. The players would need to be nuts to pass on this. As far as setting precedent for the CBA, I doubt it matters if the extra round of playoffs is popular or not. I'd be willing to bet that what the fans do or don't want has never come up during a CBA negotiation.
  5. If they would have invested $20 million based on the Nasdaq index and let it sit they would have approx $1.3 billion today. Do the same with the S&P 500 index and you are looking at $620 million. Both comparisons assume that the owners did not put any more of their money into the team after purchase, which may or may not be true. A damn nice return, but not insane when you look at the complete lack of liquidity of the investment and limited number of potential purchasers on the way out.
  6. I think the character thing in the HOF description is being misused at this point. I think it is intended to block cheaters on the field and abusive players, not people who are general jagoffs. I suspect there are lots of those in the HOF already. Using the HOF as a judgement of someone's entire life isn't realistic. And could very well change after enshrinement.
  7. Posnanski has been running a series on the top 100 players not in the Hall, and is ranking them in order he would add them. He lists Minnie Minoso #1. Great story on his career and HOF credentials: The Hall of Fame Outsiders: No. 1, Minnie Miñoso – The Athletic
  8. And most of them worked for the Chicago Tribune, which happened to own the other baseball team in town, and literally spent the entire season trash talking a team that won 99 games and went wire to wire. There have only been a handful of wire to wire champs in baseball history, and none had to survive an insane hot streak like the Indians put up. And none of those other teams were called chokers by anyone, definitely not their own fans.
  9. Massive choke job in 2005? WTF? They played Sept and the first days of October at a .610 clip, which is a 100 win pace. The Indians were playing like .750 ball the last couple of months. Holding them off was amazing. Only Jay Marrioti would call that a choke job.
  10. That was the twitter name of the person who DM'd Passan with the scoop on TLR's DUI arrest. If it got out that he was the source, and said source had a sordid history of his own, vengeful types could leak that info as well. Just sayin.......
  11. And Passan is connected to both. Is it possible that Porter is actually "Mr. SugarPenis". Seems like the type of guy who would name himself that. And he was in the right place at the right time to have the TLR info.
  12. Wonder if this guy was behind the original concept for Clark the Cub
  13. This guy is a stalker. And yes, like drunk drivers, stalkers sometimes kill their victims. Women know this. And unlike drunk driving, which is usually somewhere between a misjudgment and a complete lack of responsibility, stalking is a methodic, considered attack against a specific victim. Don't downplay stalking.
  14. He apparently never scrolled down to the threads claiming no respectable free agent would sign with the Sox because the manager is allegedly an alcoholic racist. Or the thread where Sox fans were trying to financially destroy the team because they wanted Hinch instead of LaRussa.
  15. The Chicago Wolves announced they will play their entire schedule in a community ice rink rather than the Allstate Arena.
  16. I think the MLB teams may need to assist their affiliated teams financially to make a season happen but I think they will do it. I don't see how they can lose another year of development. The camp system for the best players is no where near the development quality of AAA and the younger players may just disappear off the grid if they can't play another year.
  17. He had two DUI's and a history of misogynistic comments and behavior before the Cubs/Marquee hired him in the first place. He was afforded the exact same grace as TLR. He just sucked at his job.
  18. IIRC, Toronto asked JR for permission to interview KW for Paul Beeston's job. Beeston and JR were buddies, and no one knew Beeston was on the way out. So JR was pissed and sat on the request. Later he found out Toronto reached out to KW without his permission, tampering. Also they were trying to recruit him during the winter meetings so the timing was impossible. Normally I believe permission is almost always granted if a promotion is part of the deal. Toronto just handled this one poorly and pissed off JR, and KW had no intention of doing it anyway. I also thought RH interviewed for a couple of GM jobs that he didn't get before he was promoted to GM with the Sox.
  19. And looking into this a little further, I wonder if they are only going to use numbers that were compiled from Negro League games as determined by a study done around 15 years ago. If so, Gibson only had 115 HR. The 800-1000 number includes barnstorming exhibitions vs. non-Negro League teams and is only an estimate.
  20. The recognition of the Negro Leagues is a wonderful idea. But I was always under the belief that the Negro Leagues lacked the detailed record keeping of AL/NL baseball. Lots of missing or non existent box scores combined with a lack of centralized record keeping meant that the numbers were no where near as accurate as AL/NL records. How are they going to reconcile that? Do we know how many HR Gibson had, or K's Paige had aside from the obvious fact that they were great ballplayers who would have dominated AL/NL baseball?
  21. I wonder how many people on this board have texted while driving. Proven to be significantly more dangerous than driving at .09. Or how about speeding. Also significantly more dangerous than drunk driving if more than 20 over the limit. Both have caused many deaths as well. Just don't get caught often or get headlines if they do.
  22. Well three would put him at .09, which is what he blew. So I sort of assumed he had another and burned some off before the test. I could be wrong however if this happened immediately after leaving the restaurant it could have been three total.
  23. Even if you don't find the name itself offensive there is no denying the racist intent behind the imagery they chose to associate with it. As offensive as the most recent Chief Wahoo was it was actually significantly worse in the first half of the 1900s. They can't claim to be "honoring" anyone when they use those cartoons as part of marketing.
  24. A police friend once warned my son that 2 or 3 of every ten cars on the road at 11 pm on a typical Friday night are being driven by someone over the limit. You may be right, but there aren't enough jails to lock up everyone who does this routinely.
  25. I'd be shocked if more than 5 season ticket holders cancelled because LaRussa had four glasses of wine when he should have stopped at three. Season ticket holders have sat through years of crap baseball waiting for what may be happening in the next few years; the only ones cancelling are probably in the category of Sox fan that is always looking for an excuse to stay home anyway. Hell, I know Sox fans who still b**** about what channel the games were on forty year ago. The fans who claim they won't buy tickets because of LaRussa weren't going to buy tickets anyway, and the Sox know it.
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