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Thank you. There would be a 10 page thread if Tim or Yoan did that. Colas should be working everyday in RF and with Pedro up here.

What the f*** Sheets, you dumb ass.

Naperville is not Chicago. Benetti needs to and Nicky Lopez.

This list represents estimates of a far generous expected future value vs. remaining contract payments. The Padres vastly overpaid. The only question is will it be by $50M, $150M, $200M, $250M or $300M. Machado is in his Age 30 season, and will be paid the following: $17.1M 2023 (30), 2024 (31) & 2025 (32) $25.1M 2026 (33) $39.1M 2027 (34), 2028 (35), 2029 (36), 2030 (37), 2031 (38), 2032 (39), 2033 (40)

Solid observations. While compiling the lists, I learned quite a bit. Thought the story of the Cubs' most successful owner, Charles Murphy, was excellent. Wasn't surprised the Tribune had the longest stretch (entire 28 seasons) without a championship or runner up team. Didn't realize the Cardinals were as bad as they were. Still glad they played in Comiskey and won two championships. f*** the bears, they shouldn't be allowed to stay "Chicago" if they move to the suburbs. As pathetic as the "New York" football Giants and Jets, both of whom spent more time in East Rutherford, New Jersey than any other location. Will be interesting if Reinsdorf, McCaskey and/or Wirtz will finish their ownership below .500, all are at the precipice.

Jerry won’t trade with the Mets out of hatred toward Cohen, and perhaps Houston is also nixed. That said, he can dump a lot of salary with the rest. (+/- MLB Trade Values) Benintendi (-$26.2M), Bummer (-$7.1M), Hendriks (+$3.2M), Anderson (+$28.1M) to the Dodgers. Grandal (-$5.5M) and Lopez ($2.4M) to Padres. Lynn (+$7.6M) to Blue Jays. Moncada (-$5.3M) and Giolito (+$20.8M) to Rangers. Eloy (+$11.3M) and Clevinger (-$0.7) to Marlins. Kelly (-$3.1M), Graveman (+$2.0M) to whoever. Think they’ll keep Cease and Robert unless Jerry wants to flip a double bird to White Sox fans and MLB.

Moncada would have offers, perhaps you send a portion of cash. Benintendi has the 17th worst contract value across The MLB per Trade Values. Hahn isn’t satisfied unless he makes things worse each and every year. Nationals Strasburg ($129.7M) Angels Rendon ($124.3M) Yankees Stanton ($101.7M) Rockies Bryant ($100.1M) Brewers Yelich ($90.4M) Padres Machado ($63.3M) Mariners Ray ($49.2M) Blue Jays Berrios ($41.1M) Nationals Corbin ($40.7M) Phillies Castellanos ($38.1M) Red Sox Story ($35.2M) Royals Perez ($34.6M) Atlanta Ozuna ($33.2M) Tigers Baez ($31.8M) Red Sox Devers ($27.3M) Tigers Cabrera ($26.6M) White Sox Benintendi ($26.2M) Marlins Garcia ($26.0M) Reds Votto ($25.9M) Yankees Hicks ($24.5M)

With White Sox fans luck, Jeb will take over after Jerry departs.

Rick Hahn ranks 53rd among 77 Chicago General Managers across the four major sports. Both Hahn and the White Sox will continue to sink further baring a miraculous turnaround, as the standings below are through the end of last season. If Hahn continues for several more seasons, the White Sox stand a significant chance of falling below ,500 as a franchise, a sad state only suffered once (1948-1954 seasons, with 1950 the nadar at .493). Carter Hawkins, Kyle Davidson and Ryan Poles look to gain on Hahn with each and every new season. Three of the five current owners (McCaskey, Reinsdorf's Sox and Wirtz) are in danger of falling under .500 during their tenure if they continue to have seasons similar to their current / most recent seasons. Ricketts is back to under .500 after last season. Big Four Chicago Standings Decatur / Chicago Bears 1920-2022 786-624-42 .556 Chicago Cubs 1876-2022 11,161-10,609-161 .513 Chicago Bulls 1967-2023 2,344-2,254 .510 Chicago White Sox 1901-2022 9,492-9,390 .503 Chicago NHL Team 1927-2023 2,866-3,044-814 .487 Chicago Cardinals 1920-1959 165-258-25 .396 Chicago General Manager Standings * .734 47-17 Jerry Vainisi Bears (1983-1986) 1985 .707 28-11-2 Ralph Brizzolara Bears (1942-1945) 1943 1942 .680 314-139-34 George Halas Bears (1920-1941 & 1946-1962) 1921 1932 1933 1940 1941 1946 1922 1923 1924 1926 1934 1937 1948 1956 .653 801-421-19 Charles Murphy Cubs (1906-1913) 1907 1908 1906 1910 .639 277-155-8 William Hulbert Cubs (1876-1881) 1876 1880 1881 .604 198-130 Pat Williams Bulls (1969-1973) .600 6-4 Tom Haller White Sox (September 27, 1986-October 5, 1986) .592 90-58-26 Mike Keenan NHL (1990- November 6, 1992) 1992 .590 56-39 Bill Tobin Bears (1987-1992) .588 542-379-1 Philip K. Wrigley Cubs (1932-1937) 1932 1935 .575 335-246-12 James Hart Cubs (1902-1905) .575 34-25-1 Ray Bennigsen Cardinals (1947-1951) 1947 1948 .574 50-36-8 Chris O'Brien Cardinals (1920-1928) 1925 .565 246-189-2 Hank Greenberg White Sox (1959-August 25, 1961) 1959 .560 808-636 Jerry Krause Bulls (1985-2003) 1991 1992 1993 1996 1997 1998 .556 257-205-2 Chuck Comiskey & John Rigney White Sox (1956-1958) .544 1,396-1,165-53 Al Spalding Cubs (1882-1901) 1882 1885 1886 .541 493-419 Stan Bowman NHL (2009-2021) 2010 2013 2015 .540 95-81 Jerry Angelo Bears (2001-2011) 2006 .540 1,140-972-14 William Wrigley Junior Cubs (1918-1931) 1918 1929 .539 248-212-4 Charles Weber Cubs (1938-1940) 1938 .534 1,115-968-48 Charles Comiskey White Sox (1901-1914) 1901 1906 .532 752-645-293 Tommy Ivan NHL (1954-1977) 1961 1962 1965 1971 1973 .527 817-734-3 Ron Schueler White Sox (1991-2000) .521 1,014-931 Ken Williams White Sox (2001-2012) 2005 .521 25-23 Rod Graves Bears (1994-1996) .518 450-419 Gar Forman Bulls (2009-2020) .512 84-80 Jon Kovler Bulls (1976-1978) .511 776-742-1 Jed Hoyer Cubs (2012-2021) 2016 .511 749-717-2 Ed Short White Sox (August 26, 1961 - August 31, 1970) .508 125-121 Dick Motta Bulls (1973-1976) .504 173-170 Stu Holcomb White Sox (September 1, 1970 - 1972) .502 324-322-1 Jim Frey Cubs (1987-1991) .500 749-748 Jim Hendry Cubs (July 5, 2002 - August 17, 2011) .498 692-697-234 Bob Pulford NHL (1977-1990; November 7, 1992-1997; November 27,1999-2000 & October 25, 2003-2005) .496 610-620-11 Frank Lane White Sox (1948-1955) .496 117-119 Marc Eversley Bulls (2020-2023) .492 151-156-5 Charles Taft Cubs (1914-1915) .489 999-1,042-6 Roland Hemond White Sox (1973-1985) .487 2,285-2,408-27 Harry Grabiner White Sox (1915-1945) 1917 1919 .485 72-77-22 Mike Smith NHL (2000- October 24, 2003) .483 211-226-1 Larry Himes Cubs (1992-1994) .481 311-335 Larry Himes White Sox (1987-1990) .479 23-25 Phil Emery Bears (2012-2014) .479 463-504-1 Dallas Green Cubs (1982-1987) .478 661-723-11 James T. Gallagher Cubs (1941-1949) 1945 .476 234-258 John Paxson Bulls (2003-2009) .470 148-167 Andy MacPhail Cubs (July 19, 2000 - July 4, 2002) .468 144-164-2 Leslie O'Connor White Sox (1946-1947) .467 413-472 Ed Lynch Cubs (1995-July 18, 2000) .467 1,413-1,616-13 John Holland Cubs (1957-1975) .463 75-87 Salty Saltwell Cubs (1976) .461 700-817 Rick Hahn White Sox (2013-2022) .460 141-166-6 Charles Weeghman Cubs (1916-1917) .458 32-38-1 Herman Franks Cubs (May 22, 1981-1981) .457 74-88 Carter Hawkins Cubs (2022) .456 18-22-5 Doctor David Jones Cardinals (1929-1932) .455 310-371-2 Bob Kennedy Cubs (1977- May 21, 1981) .447 17-21 Randy Bush Cubs (August 18, 2011-2011) .444 258-336-106 Frederic McLaughlin NHL (1927-1942) 1934 1938 1931 .442 57-72 Jim Finks Bears (1974-1982) .438 7-9 Dave Wannstedt Bears (1993) .436 143-185 Dale Tallon NHL (2005-2009) .435 64-84-6 George Halas Junior Bears (1963-1973) 1963 .434 66-86 Hawk Harrelson White Sox (1986-September 24, 1986) .432 464-612-8 Wid Matthews Cubs (1950-1956) .425 48-65 Ryan Pace Bears (2015-2021) .422 64-93-29 Bob Murray NHL (1997-November 26, 1999) .406 233-341 Rod Thorn Bulls (1978-1985) .397 12-19-3 Charles Bidwell Cardinals (1933-1935) .388 95-150 Dick Klein Bulls (1966-1969) .387 248-424-106 Bill Tobin NHL (1942-1954) 1944 .329 54-110 Kyle Davidson NHL (2021-2023) .297 19-45 Mark Hatley Bears (1997-2000) .276 25-68-3 Bill Bidwell Cardinals (1952-1959) .239 26-88-5 Arch Wolfe Cardinals (1936-1946) .176 3-14 Ryan Poles Bears (2022) Chicago Owner Standings .653 801-421-19 Charles Murphy Cubs (1906-1913) 1907 1908 1906 1910 .639 277-155-8 William Hulbert Cubs (1876-1881) 1876 1880 1881 .597 463-306-42 George Halas Bears (1920-1982) 1921 1932 1933 1940 1941 1943 1946 1963 1922 1923 1924 1926 1934 1937 1942 1948 1956 .574 50-36-8 Chris O'Brien Cardinals (1920-1928) 1925 .575 335-246-12 James Hart Cubs (1902-1905) .558 172-136-2 Dorothy Comiskey Rigney White Sox (1957-1958) .545 677-566-2 Arthur Allyn Junior & John Allyn White Sox (June 12, 1961-1968) .544 1,396-1,165-53 Al Spalding Cubs (1882-1901) 1882 1885 1886 .540 1,140-972-14 William Wrigley Junior Cubs (1918-1931) 1918 1929 .529 1,609-1,432 Jerry Reinsdorf Bulls (1985-2023) 1991 1992 1993 1996 1997 1998 .519 967-882-389 Arthur Wirtz NHL (1953-1983) 1961 1962 1965 1971 1973 .514 2,391-2,260-62 Charles Comiskey White Sox (1901-1931) 1901 1906 1917 1919 .510 633-607 Rocky Wirtz NHL (2007-2023) 2010 2013 2015 .504 3,313-3,262 Jerry Reinsdorf White Sox (1981-2023) 2005 .504 323-318 Virginia Halas McCaskey Bears (1983-2022) 1985 2006 .498 1,079-1,086-1 Thomas S. Ricketts Cubs (2009-2022) 2016 .496 1,329-1,350-19 Grace Comiskey White Sox (July 19. 1939 - 1956) .493 242-249 Dick Klein Bulls (1967-1972) .493 27-28-15 The Norris Family NHL (1952-1953) .492 151-156-5 Charles Taft Cubs (1914-1915) .488 569-596-4 Bill Veeck Junior White Sox (1959-June 11, 1961 & 1976-1980) 1959 .485 2,134-2,269-6 Tribune Company Cubs (1981-2008) .484 3,403-3,629-37 Philip K. Wrigley Cubs (1932-1976) 1932 1935 1938 1945 .480 772-846-220 Bill Wirtz NHL (1983-2007) 1992 .469 304-344 William Wrigley III Cubs (1977-1980) .465 522-601-3 John Allyn White Sox (1969-1975) .462 493-573 Arthur Wirtz & Estate Bulls (1972-1985) .460 141-166-6 Charles Weeghman Cubs (1916-1917) .456 519-619-7 J. Louis Comiskey White Sox (1932-July 18, 1939) .456 18-22-5 Doctor David Jones Cardinals (1929-1932) .452 319-400-129 Frederic McLaughlin NHL (1927-1944) 1934 1938 1931 1944 .391 59-93-4 Violet Bidwell Wolfner Cardinals (1947-1959) 1947 1948 .364 148-281-61 James E. Norris NHL (1944-1952) .275 38-107-8 Charles Bidwell Cardinals (1933-1946) Note *: Bears, Bulls and the NHL team have identified GMs since inception. Club Owners are listed for Cubs (1876-1937), White Sox (1901-1914) and Cardinals (1920-1935).

The Sox are actually lead The MLB in least caught stealing for the second straight season. 2023: 2 CS, 25 SB (92.6%) #2 = 4 CS 2022: 10 CS, 58 SB (85.3%) #2 = 16 CS

Tony and team outcoached, outplayed, outsmarted. Tony didn't have syringes until he went to Oakland.

Jay Cuda got you.

Glad only 11,900 paid today. 371,868 / 22 Home Games = 16,903 Pace: 1,369,150 plus excess Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox and Cardinal tickets sold. Post Jerry Cancelled World Series plus White Flag Trades the only two seasons (1998 & 1999) under 1.4M at the new stadium. Under 1.3M would be nice.

Wonder if Dodgers would take Alberto, Anderson, Benintendi, Bummer, Clevinger, Giolito, Grandal, Graveman, Hendriks, Jimenez, Kelly, Lopez, Lynn, Moncada and International Cash for a low A PTBNL.

You have done the best possible working with the lineup today. Your work is to be commended, only the second time the Sox had a winning streak this season. We thank you for your service.

Eat my carrots, b****.

This team has played dumb since the late 2000s.

He's not stealing bases. Listening, so if he attempted and it wasn't a hit and run, that's jackass.

Most teams would have him on the IL. He's on the White Sox. 40 Man Roster - 20 Position Players Healthy Major League Talent: Infield - Can hit and catch (1): Moncada. Outfield - Can hit and catch (1): Robert Junior. Healthy Major League Hitters, can't field: DH/IB - Healthy (3): Burger, Sheets, Vaughn. Major League Fielders, can't hit: Outfield (2): Benintendi, Hamilton. Injured Players: DH/1B/ Faux Catcher (2): Grandal, Jimenez. Infield (2): Anderson, Andrus. AAA Players Catchers (2): Perez, Zavala. Infield (4): Alberto, Gonzalez, Rodriguez, Sosa. Outfield (3): Colas, Haseley, Marisnick

No margin with a Sunday lineup.

Is anyone working with Colas in Charlotte? Perhaps Colas can be Pedro's next project as he could use a lot of coaching and guidance at hitting and fielding.

Sheets has zero business playing defense. Rick Hahn roster construction with six guys who can't play defense on the roster beyond 1B before letting Abreu go (Vaughn, Grandal, Sheets, Burger, Eloy).

Folks need to take into account the impact on the pitching staff when 4th and 5th outs are required due to players who really have no business wearing a glove. Catchers (2): YG & SZ Starting Infielders / DH (5): SS TA, 2B EA, DH JB, 3B YM, 1B AV Starting Outfielders (3): AB, EJ, LR Jr.. Reserves (3): Infielder, Infielder/Outfielder, Outfielder. You need to have someone who can at least adequately play defense to cover the three reserve roles. Sheets is not an option. He can't even field 1B. Eloy and Burger are far superior to Sheets. At some point, they'll also consider bringing up Colas, who is an actual OFer. They should have traded Eloy for pitching over the past two off-seasons, but failed to do so, to maximize a trade return for their glut of DHs.

It’s not dislike but rather the fact he can’t play defense, and his bat isn’t good enough to supplant Vaughn, Eloy or Burger. He can wait in Charlotte until one of the three go down. They need reserves with flexibility over multiple defensive positions. Sheets could be a platoon DH if there weren’t so many holes on the roster.