Chick Mercedes

Nobody knows what is correct. And both fanbases are unreasonable. because both fanbases are always unreasonable in trade scenarios.

I literally believed Hahn would pay off when he was talking like that. In my mind's eye I heard the Black Eyed Peas New Day.

But to BOUNCE back, one needs to have bounced once first. I think people are being too disappointed about the Sox moves, or lack therof. They have told us a long time ago to stop believin' But seriously, they have told us without telling us to stop being disappointed. '24 is a writeoff, there is no quick turnaround in the plan despite the original propaganda. Accept it. Enjoy it and relax.

You don't know that the Sox have hired a disciple Mickey Goldmill's philosophies to train Flexen into a champion

The Reds are leaking for effect. Honestly, I take that as a sign that Getz is holding his own.

That wouldn't explain how the White Sox got Lucas Giolito, Dane Dunning, and Reynaldo Lopez for Adam Eaton. I'm sure they asked for more.

exorbitant. Who defines that? Starting high in a negotiation, or gauging a market price for a product is not the same practice as indulging in exorbitance. It’s an ask. If there are no takers, and prices stay the same, that’s where exorbitant labels come in. Early on, its likely just a lure thrown out to see if a fish jumps onto the hook. And possibly to get other teams to put better offers out than their own early offers if they wanted an early deal.

What you really mean is that they're not trading him this early if they are asking for that much. Some GMs always want to "win" trades notoriously. Other GMs find dealing with those guys distasteful. But Getz isn't doing that. Teams will definately pay a high price. Depending on circumstances. But they usually don't do it early, that's for sure. We are early. And they never pay something ridiculous this side of the Minnesota Vikings. But there is nothing ridiculous described here that says nothing will happen if the Sox keep the high ask. If Getz wasn't using high standards going into his deals, that would be malpractice. We will see who blinks when the pressure is really on.

You know, I don't know. Reinsdorf would be foolish not to. Most new GMs are on basically, a 3 year plan of retooling/rebuilding, with relaxed expectations. You might think an inexperienced GM like Getz with no record of accomplishment ought to have the benefit of lower immediate expectations. The exceptions are the teams with good rosters that have underperformed. But the Sox are certainy not that exception.

You're looking at 2024 as the end product of a plan, which is the wrong idea. I wouldn't be surprised if Getz is working on a 3 year plan of a remodel. Remodel as in, they leave up one wall with the electric box connection for tax purposes after the rest of the structure was demo-ed

Thats what I have been saying for awhile FFS. Ever since that obviously ridiculous report about a deal getting done before the meetings

The Sox continue their reign as the great instution of pitch framing catchers.

Agreed. Maybe temporary

I like the logic and analysis exercise, but I read this, raised my eyebrows, and took a long sip of coffee. I wish I had an actual newspaper to shake instead of a laptop https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-plan-to-move-aaron-judge-to-center-field-after-juan-soto-trade-can-work-at-least-in-2024/amp/

Our fan base is bordering on apathetic. Definitely despondent. I would agree that if Jerry wasn’t tone deaf, he wouldn’t be dumping salary and players right now, adding rather, but it’s pretty fucking obvious that he is tone deaf. And I have rarely met a prospects rebuild that I didn’t like. And your take that our consternation doesn’t point to Jerry selling is not very observant. It points to selling to the point we’re almost driving the Sox to the airport and truck terminal.

What’s this, Judge in CF? Alllrighty then…

WE DID IT! ??

Cut payroll, dump players, to what end? After the draft, even the benefit of tanking is out. The fanbase is up in arms over years (now decades) of poor managment, and bad publicity. The response is to make the team even worse? They want to sign a bunch of seat fillers instead of longer term solutions. If there was any time to try and mend fences with fans, and spend a little assets for the on-field product, this is it. Jerry Reinsdorf thinks it is time to go to Nashville. I don't understand what is happening at the height of fan discontent. Typically teams cut payroll before they are sold. Not while languishing in desperate need for lifelines. It's just bad business.

there's only a few owners with Jerry's pathetic record of big contract spending. I doubt the next owner would run the team the same way with antipathy towards superstars

‘A Fedde’. Known nomenclature substitute for ‘A Reinsdorf’. Understood to be a typical substitute for a real aquisition.

Eloy’s and Zach Lavine’s. That means, it is time to enter the trade market in Chicago. I can’t imagine Cease’s value is anywhere near where it should be to make it a smart trading time either.

Getz was in player development until 2021.