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Jeff King? Brien Taylor? Andy Benes? White Sox making the decision? It's still a crapshoot.

Good list. Some great. Some good. Some not so good. Crapshoot.

I don't want to give up on him. But don't you think he'll be a specialist against lefties? He's been the second best reliever behind Bobby. I was just saying he made me cuss at the TV a few times. He was the same as the other relievers during that stretch where the bullpen stunk every night.

You guys want to lose every night to get a shot at those names? I'll be breathless counting the days til the draft. Give me free agents and Japanese players any day over no names in the draft that likely will not pan out judging the Sox history of draft picks.

Logan has not been great every outing this season. He's been horrid at times.

KW doesn't need an extension. He's not going anywhere, either. Reinsdorf made that clear. Who would you rather have, Oz, Girardi or Piniella? I'd take Oz. Give him a good bullpen and 2-3 improvements in the actual lineup and he'll win again.

I respect your position on this, but like I asked, when are you going to give up next year and hope we again have the worst record in baseball? Where does it end for you? The Sox have won one world series in about 80 years or whatever. The odds are great they may not win another one in your lifetime. I mean we're talking odds here. So if the odds hold true, each year the team is not in contention are you going to spend most of the season hoping your team LOSES? That's my point. Why want your team to lose? It makes little sense. You played baseball. Don't you see the foolishness in wanting your team to be embarrassed in the hopes of getting a draft pick that could be David Clyde II??? Give me victories or give me death.

I've done that with Mike MacDougal, Ryan Buckvitch, Mike Myers (at least let the real Austin Powers take the mound instead of this hack), Thornton and Boonie Logan.

Uh, he won a World Series two years ago in a city that simply DOES NOT win World Series. He deserved the extension. How soon we forget.

Great move. This should tell all the underachievers Oz is in charge for some time to come. Now KW needs to get his act together and fix the roster.

SADDEST, MOST PATHETIC RACE IN THE GAME

Are you serious? For a No. 1 draft pick who like some astute poster said we'll likely be too cheap to sign? I know a lot of you played baseball in high school and college. Have you ever considered tanking a game in your life? I wanted to win every single game when I took the field. I want the sox to win every night. I don't understand this obsession with the draft. Why aren't you talking about trades and free agent signings? Who gives a s*** about the baseball draft??? I am embarrassed that the Sox, who won it all 2 years ago now are the laughingstocks of baseball. I want to win EVERY GAME we play against the Royals. I can't believe my fellow sox fans want them to lose every game. Amazing.

I'm not blaming those who want the Sox to lose for the team being horrible. Try answering this for me. If we wind up the worst team in baseball which is likely, we get the No. 1 pick and all of you will be so happy waiting for the draft. Chance are the team will suck again next year. Let's say the team goes 1-10 to open the season. So now are you going to root against the Sox every day next season starting in mid April, and the season after that and after that, just so they can keep getting top draft picks? I prefer to win every and any game possible and hope the GM signs some free agents and makes some decent trades for a change. The Royals have stunk for years. You think their No. 1 picks have been that good?

Don't you see how dysfunctional it is to want your team to be the worst? Sad.

Cub fans want two things: To win and for us to lose. I don't see how anybody who likes the White Sox can rest knowing their team a.) lost today and b.) continues to disgrace itself in regards to the rest of the teams. Just 2 years after winning it all, the team is vying to become the worst team of all. How can anybody want that to happen is beyond me. To give up like many of you did with 5 or so weeks left ... to write off each and every game is amazing to me.

Sad we continued to disgrace ourselves on the field. Sad we are closer to being the worst team in the league. Sad that Cub fans are happy that they won and we lost both. Sad that so many Sox fans have much in common with Cub fans these days in wanting us to lose.

I like your post and thank you for the stats and names. But how do you know we still wouldn't have drafted those said players had we won 80 games, etc.? My point is the draft is a crapshoot. I don't care about the draft. I'd rather win. And yes I am mad we didn't win tonight. Good post by your name. I am formerly Mt. Greenwood (Brother Rice, Mt. Greenwood LL alum); currently relatives in Lisle.

Why are you so high on DeJesus. All I can tell you from living in KC is that the fans here consider him a slight disappointment. I don't mind the guy and wouldn't mind seeing him in a Sox uniform, but I wouldn't give up much for him, that is for sure. And the Royals will want a lot. He is not that good IMO.

Yeah, he's not too bad. I notice a lot of people on here talk about salary. Is he worth the money he'll command? No. So sign Hunter, who will be worth it.

What would our payroll be if we added Hunter, traded for a Renteria-caliber shortstop (or is Renteria a free agent?) and traded for a veteran middle reliever. I would be willing to trade Vazzy for one of the parts mentioned. Wouldn't this be a good step toward fixing the team? New cf in Hunter. New ss. Good middle reliever from somewhere, trade either Vazzy or Garland.

DeJesus is pretty good, but he's no Beltran. For one, he can't steal a base. He's a little better than a plodder, but by no means fast. I like him, but the verdict is still out on him as far as his "star" quality. He has 6 hrs and 54 ribbies in a lot of at bats. Nine steals. That's Iguchi like speed at best. He might step up on a better team, but as of now, he is not an all star.

The perfect scenario would be Thome hits a game-winning home run after the delay.

How bout Torii Hunter and trade for a ss and acquire a veteran set up guy. That won't improve us?

I could care less if we pick 2 or 10. I want to win every game, then sign free agents in the offseason. I could give a s*** about draft picks. The day I root against the White Sox is the day I hope I'm dead. Is that clear enough? If you want to celebrate the White Sox losing, good for you.

Great line, chisox fan. Amen, brotha. How many more losses before Bears fans want all losses so we get the No. 1 draft pick? What's the over under?