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Actually no, I don't to mean to act like it's a job. I do think it is a fair question you as to whether a true Sox fan would root for the Sox to lose against the Cubs for something as hypothetical as a draft pick? With due apology to Allen Iverson ... "a draft pick? a draft pick? We are talkin about a f***ing draft pick here?' 'Compared to Sox beating the Cubs??? A f***ing draft pick???"

Tizzle's got to be kidding or I've caught him in a mess. Can't root for the Cubs and be a good Sox fan, can you? Just asking.

Good deal, but I was referring to Tizzle since he said he was officially actively rooting against the Sox every game the rest of the way. And besides the Cubs I'd think Santana would be one guy we'd all want the Sox to beat the most of anybody. What bout you Tizzle? Root for Cubs if they played tomorrow? Or Sox?

How you could stomach seeing Santana mow your favorite team down once again is beyond me. Answer me this. If the Sox were playing the Cubs tomorrow, would you want the Cubs to win? I know the answer and it sickens me.

I agree the core of the team is still very talented. If it isn't, that WS title was the biggest fluke in the history of mankind. I agree with your statement. I think you are right.

Damn, I'd love to see the SS Hitmen piece. There should have been a lot of 30 anniversary stories this season, but weren't unless I missed 'em. Pitch at Risk to Richie Zisk. later amended to Pitch at Risk to Carlton Fisk.

I thought the exact same thing when I saw the box score. I'd pass on Greinke unless we can get him very cheap, which we can't since he's the coveted No. 1 draft pick so many of you want so badly. I don't know why some of you jumped on me. Yes I want the Sox to win every game, including today's game. I see no sane reason to root against the Sox. I'm not saying you are not fans for rooting against them, I just think it's misguided logic. There are too many uncertainties about the draft. A win in a major league baseball game is MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than a possible draft pick who may or may not sign. And yes I realize what happens when the guy doesn't sign.

If you are the worst team in baseball, you are a laughingstock. If you beat the Royals and avoid that fate, you gain in the respect category. What is so hard to believe about that? I am not ignorant. I am not an animal.

Sox should have won that series in 83. Bats went dead. Hoyt woulda been ready for game 5 if there was a game five. Bad memories.

Thanks for the vids. If anybody has a highlight video of the 1977 White Sox, I'd love to see it.

I nominate this for post of the century. Amen brotha.

Yes, losing Garland and Jose for 2 younger unproven guys might not be good. Especially with the bullpen issues. I hope Haeger is a starter and never is used as a reliever again.

It's boring to you because you or somebody else often states glee in the Sox losing and I cannot stand on letting the comment go by, especially on a White Sox Website where people understandably in my mind should want the team to win. I notice there are never any new threads on here anymore. It's all about the draft. A one-day draft in June in which the Sox will draft some name we will not hear from for at least 2-3 years if at all.

My question is how can a one day draft next June affect your thinking on games played the last 2 months of this season? Everybody has pointed out the draft is a crapshoot. There are busts all the time in the draft. One pick -- and no way that pick will sign until the deadline day if at all -- is not worth all this in my opinion.

I'm just pointing out that you guys have the radical position on this issue, not me.

I'd rather have Cole, but that's not the point. The point is win as many games as possible as use the draft as one of the ways to improve your team. You can improve your team via trade and free agency and signing foreign players which is the way we must go I believe. I will not waste a day of the precious baseball season wanting my team to lose. The winter is too long as it is.

But win a game in the respect category.

Thome has proven to me he's not finished. I was concerned about Thome's production possibly declining. I just hope he can keep his back healthy next season. This order should return us to the top of the division ... Renteria Hunter Thome Dye Paulie Crede AJP Fields Richar Don't you agree?

Is it all mental with Contreras? How in the f*** could he pitch a complete game tonight? Great win, White Sox. p.s. To those of you who think I am an idiot for wanting the Sox to win ... I challenge you to call a talk show and tell the host how you have been rooting for the team to lose every game to get the No. 1 pick. Be honest and tell me how the host laughs you off the show. I have asked dozens of fans about your position and they all laugh and say the baseball draft is the biggest crapshoot of all. Test it on a talk show, fellas and report back to me honestly at how the host laughs you away. Do you honestly believe the people in the stands at games at the Cell the past 5 weeks want this team to lose? Win baby, just win!

How do you know we wouldn't have gotten Frank a pick or two later? Or if we didn't get Frank we got somebody else? Where was Mark Buehrle drafted? Have fun following the contract negotiations of our No. 1 draft pick next year. I prefer watching the current team and hoping it wins every game including games against one of the worst teams (besides the Sox) in baseball.

I didn't know he was hitting better than Fields. I hope he's the answer. I hope the infield of Crede, new ss, Richar and Konerko is productive next year. And the outfield of Fields, Hunter and Dye produces as well as AJP/Hall at catcher. We obviously need some pop in the lineup.

A "good" loss? An "ideal" loss? Glad you don't mind seeing your team get embarrassed again by the worst franchise in baseball. A draft pick? Yeah that pick is really going to help this team on the field next year.

Hope you are right. He's not hitting much more than his weight, is he? There are way too many automatic outs in the lineup which means long losing streaks and lots of games like tonight. 4 hits? What an embarrassment.

Pathetic hitting again tonight. No way this team is going anywhere next year without drastic lineup improvements. I'm surprised Oz would want to stick around for what should be a mess again next year barring major major changes. Embarrassing to lose and finish behind a minor league team in the Royals.

I can't see the Sox contending next year w/out major changes to the everyday lineup. Again tonight, just four hits thru eight innings. We will actually need players at ss, 2B, LF, CF who can actually get on base. I'm assuming Crede will be at 3B and Fields in left which will be a start. The bullpen remains a potential disaster. Unless we acquire new ss, new 2B, new CF, and of course need bounceback years from Konerko, AJP. Can't see it all coming together so quickly after this disasterous season. Remember the starting pitching was pretty good this year the first half and we still sucked.