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I love Ron Santo and Ron Santo was not better than Joe Crede defensively. Now for an entire career, yes, Santo should be in the Hall. I can't figure out why Sox fans won't admit this guy is not good, but a great fielder. Yes the pitching was more important to our WS victory Kalapse. But pitching is nothing w/out defense. To not admit the guy is a great fielder, in the same realm as Brooks, I think is stupid. He was one of the big keys to our WS victory with Dye, pitching, etc.

Fair enough, Kalapse, but this era thing is puzzling to me. Former Sox pitcher Gary Peters whacked about five home runs one year and hit about .230. You mean to tell me if he played today he'd be Ankiel? I seriously doubt that.

C'mon, facts are facts. Brooks hit .267; Joe arguably would surpass Brooks' numbers if healthy for a career. Crede is a vaccuum; Brooks was as well. Crede was instrumental in our WS victory. Very key. I mean I'm all for bagging on our guys as much as the next guy, but check Brooksie's stats. The guy hit .267 for a career. He was no Mark Belanger at the plate, but he did make tons of outs. Joe Crede fields the position flawlessly as did Brooks. He makes all the plays. What is so outlandish about my claim aside from taking Joe for granted?? I respect your comparison, Kalapse, nice job, but at least answer my question ... Is Joe Crede a GREAT fielder? If you do not answer, Yes, I say you are taking him for granted. He is as good a fielder as Brooks I am saying. And like Brooks, he's a clutch hitter.

Uh, that's not a complete list. Sisco, MacDougal must be sent a one-way back to KC.

Brooks Robinson was a career .267 hitter with 268 home runs. If he played today, you guys would fry him over the coals for hitting .267. Answer this honestly. Is Crede a GREAT defensive player? A GREAT one? I don't see how you wouldn't say "yes." Can Crede hit .267 for a career and hit that many homers had he stayed healthy. Uh, I think so. What makes my Brooks comparison so wrong?? Crede is a great defender who like Brooks can get a clutch hit.

I sort of feel sorry for Anderson as well. He just seems to have no clue at the plate. He looks like a bad hitting pitcher up there. Hope he makes it somewhere else. He's done with the Sox obviously.

I agree this is great news. I don't mock Erstad, though. He was a good player once. Just not with the Sox. Didn't he used to kill the Sox when he played for the Angels? If that's why we signed him, that's a dumb reason. By all accounts, he's a hard working player who gives it his all, so I won't rip him. s***, he might be like Kenny Lofton and do a good job for some team next year. Lofton sucked as a Sox and is still around. I don't however, want Lofton, and don't want Grinder. Good luck to Grinder, though. Myers was so bad, it's laughable. Thank God he's gone as well.

I call bulls*** on that. Joe Crede is Brooks Robinson. The modern day Brooks Robinson. His defense was crucial in the Sox winning the World Series, as well as his clutch hitting.

Fans should b**** and moan about $40 ticket prices for a f***ing baseball game. Steinbrenner should be remembered as the man who ruined sports. His overbidding back in the day set in motion these escalating salaries. What you get are a bunch of fragile overpaid ballplayers as evidenced by the three World Series sweeps the past four years. There is no reason ballplayers should be paid like this, no reason. Ticket prices in all sports are a joke especially in baseball where a team is lucky to have two good starters and hacks like Erstad, Uribe, and all those rag bullpen arms out there on a daily basis. Welcome to Boston, A-Rod.

Good pickup by the Tigers. One of our rivals. Not good. Renteria is much greater than Uribe. Much greater.

I'd love to have Damon. Wonder if New York would part with him. I know he got platooned a while there, was red hot down the stretch. I forget what kind of playoff he had.

No way the Sox will sign A-Rod. No way. Now the Cubs might if they had an owner. With their current situation, they won't sign A-Rod. I can't see anybody but the Mets, BoSox and Yankees having the money it will take to sign him. Should be interesting, but he isn't going to be a White Sox.

Joe Crede haters don't remember Brooks Robinson. Crede is special with the glove like Brooksie. And he gets clutch hits like Brooksie. Nobody is perfect, people. Crede is an above average player. In certain years he's an all star. I hope the same for Fields. I'd like to keep both of them. If Joe is healthy I'd rather see us deal Thome and make Fields DH the next 12 years. We've got to trade something to get something.

It sure would be nice to have Joe back. It's nice to have that vaccuum at third base!

Yep, it can be the White Sox again next season. Not without tinkering however and the return of career years from several guys. C'mon Kenny, tinker and get it done. Hopefully A-Rod goes to the NL since we won't sign him.

The fact Uribe won't alter his style of hitting proves Walker is rendered helpless by today's millionaire athletes. The guy has all the talent in the world, everybody says in media reports, yet simply won't adjust. Does the guy want to hit sub .250 all his life?? Then listen to somebody, Uribe, and learn to work the count and hit to right field as well you mope.

Lately Dick Allen has been on fire with some good posts, so I'll ask the question to him so I don't get flamed. ... --Do you think Ross Gload would have been a good guy to have had on last year's team? Should we have kept Gload and passed on Grinder?

Hope you are right about Massett as a starter. His pitches scream hit me, as do Danks' and Mac's.

There's a chance nobody in this trade will amount to anything more than Kip Wells.

Hopefully their aces will be hittable next year during the regular season. Hopefully this will bring them down to earth.

Cause I can read it then disagree with it. I'm not boycotting his crap, just shaking my head at it. He has a right to say it, I just think he's a frickin idiot who treats his audience like they have a third degree education. The man has a personal vendetta vs. Oz and shouldn't be allowed to write any more columns about him. No other Sox writers are calling for Oz's head and they arguably know a lot more about baseball than Jay.

Did anybody read this weird short Mariotti internet column on the Sun Times? http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariottiweb...ottiweb.article It briefly makes the point Torre should manage the Sox next year. He ends the column this way ... "I'd love to have that kind of man's man on the South Side. But, oh, I forgot. They gave Ozzie Guillen an extension through 2012. Fools." Fools? The Sox won a WS two years ago. Led by Ozzie. Only in Mariotti's world do coaches get fired on a whim. This guy is too predictable. What a "fool"ish column. Man this guy is a one-trick pony. Fire the manager; fire the quarterback. He even wrote a column a couple weeks ago on the Illini quarterback situation. Where's his column on firing Wedge? ONE TRICK PONY. Think Jay's hatred of Oz may stem from the fact Oz hates Mariotti and vice versa? Fans aren't that dumb to fall for this. Can you say personal vendetta? Where are all the other Chicago writers calling for Oz's head. Uh ... they aren't.

I voted for the Red Sox. American League loyalty and karma. We won it the year after they did and will again next year.

Say what you want about Oz, he managed perfectly in the 2005 postseason, as did our other coaches. No mismanaging of pitching, no dumb baserunning coaching blunders. No panicking and yanking starters early like Torre and some others. What was Skinner thinking tonight in not waving Lofton home? Is he insane? I think we have a manager who if given the tools will at least expertly manage us in games that count. There were so many blunders you could second guess this posteason. I mean how does Wedge survive blowing a 3-1 lead??

You make a good point. I am a firm believer we must keep Jon, Mark and Vaz. So I would be in favor of trading either Paulie or Thome. You are right. You have to trade something. So I'd deal one of those two and perhaps some of our young starters. We need to acquire one of those older pitchers LIKE a Byrd, Rogers, Moyer, Maddux, Mussina, Wakefield. I'm not saying those exact guys. The Sox tho need an older starter.