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Good post smalls. My grandfather followed every pitch as well. Hopefully they'll get to watch some of the playoffs on big-screen TV up yonder. s*** what's heaven without postsason Sox baseball?

Wait, where are the choke avatars now? Guess the Sox didn't choke after all. Good job White Sox, leading every day of the ENTIRE SEASON. Nice pennant, boys and good job changing the attitude, Mr. Guillen.

On ESPN they just said that the White Sox were just the 10th team in the history of baseball(can that be right?) to be in first place every day of the season. --Maybe Mariotti can write about that. Maybe the much maligned Ozzie can take pride in the fact he's one of 10 managers (assuming nobody did it more than once) to lead ever day of the season. congrats Ozzie, White Sox and Sox fans around the globe. GO SOX!

I just don't like the way he appears to relish in the Sox's perceived choke and his calling them the "Wheeze Sox." The team has won 95 games I believe and just might still win the division. You would think he would praise the team for its perseverance if the sox do hold on. I understand not wanting to be a homer but the other papers haven't been as vicious while not being homers. The Southtown guy explained that uh cleveland deserves some credit as well. My point is as a chicago columnist he might want to explore some other angles a bit. The choke thing is pretty sub-basic and growing old. I mean OK jay the team may get swept and killed in the playoffs if the team gets in. So f***ing what? A chicago team will be in the playoffs. It almost seems like he wants the team to move from the city to another town. That would be good for nobody, not him, not his paper, not the city. Don't want him to be a homer, just write like the other papers. Couch, for instance, has done a nice job criticiziing in the Sun Times but not being a simplistic moron-otti. I do want to hear his answer to the question: 'How come every time the team loses he writes the choke column,' and when they win he writes nothing? I prefer the Southtown, Trib columnists and the Herald. And Jay, I like Hawk Harrelson too. He is damn good announcer.

I've said for a while now the sad part of our second half freakishness is that I have just wanted the season to end with the Sox somehow holding onto the top spot. that is contrary to my normal belief that the last day of the season is the worst day of the year and Opening Day the best day of the year. I've hated having to just wish for the end of the season with us a game on top.

The way this maddening stretch run has been going (not taking any easy route) we will lose tomorrow and have to consider all the possibilities again JUST WIN SOX! WRAP UP THIS DIVISION AGAINST THE HORSEs*** TIGERS! PAULIE, CARL, JERMAINE ... do the job veterans do. Just win the game. And good luck.

At the moment, I think Cleveland is choking more than Chicago Great win, Sox. (Why does it always have to be about "choking?" Cleveland has had a hellacious team since the all star break and we had a hellacious team the first half. Is it all about simply choking? I vote that it's baseball, the wildest sport there is, not choking.

Congrats to Jose. What else can be said? Tremendous lift he's given us. Like you said, who would have believed he'd be our best the second half? Great job Contreras. KW and Jerry should give you some bonus money if we do indeed make the playoffs cause you are the guy saving our ass. Congrats!

Get in the playoffs then blame Ozzie for blowing it should have been option 3.

Our talent IS great. Our skill and ability to put it together and get our collective heads out of our asses is NOT GREAT. It is? You think Carl Everett is great? Jermaine Dye (who I agree has been a plus) is great? Joe Crede great? Juan Uribe great?? Yes, Paulie is great. I think AJ may be close to great. Aaron great? Pods GREAT? Give me a break. It's easy to blame the manager so I'll give in and won't type in any more on this thread. You win.

He sucks. If he sucks, so does KW and Reinsdork and the co owners. Our talent is NOT GREAT!

You can't tell me that having Blum hit in the 8th doesn't get the players talking about what this guy is doing. Was it Oz's fault that Crede couldn't attend the game for family matters and KW got him Ozuna and fricking Blum and Widger and Timo and stiffs like that as his bench? Oz is not god to me but I agree I'm sick of fathom's blaming him for everything. The fact we have been consistently getting beat by Det's and KC's and all the teams that have been beating our ass the past 7 weeks makes me think we miss Frank and Maggs and played over our heads. Garland has sucked also and Fred and Mark haven't been as good. Is Oz to blame for all that????? If Oz goes to Florida we should hire Piniella ... wait, he'd command too much money and our owner and co owners or whatever the hell we have up top won't pay for Piniella. Oz has done a good job IMO and I'm as sick as anybody about not being able to beat miserable Detroit the past 2 nights with everything on the line!

Well, OG sucks as a manager. He can't manage, which is a large part of the job. He is, on the other hand, a tremendous cheerleader. He'd easily be the captain of the pep squad if they were to create one. You really believe this collection of talent we have was worthy of winning 94 games without a good manager? Tough crowd.

Lets see how well they handle a little pressure. Uh, they handled pressure pretty well at the Cell beating our ass two of three.

Why aren't we taking care of business against fricking Detroit?

It's fate we don't win the damn division. It's not Ozzie's fault fathom. We've won 94 f***ing games. How many do you want him to win?? Cleveland got hot we went in the tank. Deal with it.Geez.

I don't think we're gonna win a game in Cleveland. No way. Does anybody out there think we can win a game in Cleveland? After their incredible comeback they will not stop letting us win a game there. Can we still realistically claim the wild card?

I like Ozzie. He's led us to 94 fricking wins. If it's not enough, that's baseball. Yes we have sucked big time the last many weeks but we've won 94 games. If we are the biggest choke in history it probably is the Chicago jinx, cause we may end up with 95-97 wins.

Check the Sox history books. Hope this isn't 1967 all over again. Completely tanking the final week against miserable teams and missing out. We really needed to win tonight. It's gonna be a dogfight, good luck Sox!

He needs to donate one day's salary to the beer vendors and have them give free fluids to the fans who have to watch him pitch as his crap outings have greatly contributed to our freefall.

Next time we play the Cubs ... maybe.

I tell you I can't blame our fans if they don't show up more than 15,000 per game for the Twins. I mean yes if you love and cherish any and every baseball game, by all means, go, but obviously cheering for the team isn't helping this team get its head out of its ass (see 2 of 3 losses vs. Cleve and all the Angels losses at home). So there's no reason to go to "support" the team. They're gonna win or lose regardless. If I lived in chicago I'd want to go just for love of baseball but I dont see how Moronotti or anybody can blame our fans if they fail to show.

If all goes well travel wise I will be in Vegas tomorrow in time to bet parlays involving the biggest locks of the year. We lose to Minnie and Cleve beats KC. I might as well make some money off this total utter collapse.

I'm content with this season if they make the playoffs. This team has proven to me they're a solid collection of players, but they're nowhere near the talent level of some other teams. Is that fathom because you simply want to avoid the Sox being the team to blow the biggest division lead in history? If we somehow limp into the playoffs I still want us to win in the playoffs. I want us to find that pitching magic and have fred, mark and jon dominate and lead us to our world series (I know, the odds of me winning the lottery are probly better).

I'll tell you who I've seen enough of and who surely will be back -- Everett. I'm not blaming him for the collapse, I've just seen enough of him. Give me Carlos Lee! Do not give me Carl Everett.