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Draymond Green brings it. He says this vaccine fight seems political. You don't say. I'm surprised twitter allows his statements to be on there without a warning or removal. Love when people are allowed to speak out like the old days. ... Also like LeBron's position which is rare for me. He isn't gonna go telling peeps what to do. Personal decisions are personal decisions IMO. Love your posts, Rabbit. GO SOX in postseason baby! https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/warriors-green-says-not-his-place-tell-team-mate-get-vaccinated-2021-10-01/

Can the Sox beat Houston? I don't like veteran teams that have been making the playoffs every year.Of course the Sox are in for back to back seasons. Maybe they're ticked and ready to win big. If Sox are down 2-0, it'll take a minor miracle. At that point, Big Mo will be with Houston so much. We gotta split in Houston

Looks like I agree with Wabbitt; I mean rabbit.

I wish life could return with no youtube, no tic tock and no Twitter. This supression is getting to be the new normal. Like that military guy in jail for merely calling out superiors? Am I the only one on the board concerned about this stuff? Tex? Anybody else? https://video.foxnews.com/v/6274678576001#sp=show-clips

The Fox hosts I listen to admit they are vaxxed Hannity is vaxxed; Tucker vaxxed; don't know about Ingraham. They just want freedom to decide,.

I listen, worry some, then make decisions. I got vaxxed twice so far. Booster coming I think (moderna).

Amazing how different people are. I challenge you to listen to a pod of either of the two and tell me you didn't appreciate their comments/views. Have you ever listened to either? I don't think either are trying to inflame anybody and I listen to both. Yes they express differing views from the norm. That doesn't mean they are evil. Not sure why people think differing opinions are so bad. Whitlock's sidekick, uncle Jimmy, recently was out 2 weeks with SEVERE covid. They had good discussions on it upon Jimmy's return. Jimmy was in BAD SHAPE for a while in the hospital w/covid. I don't think he revealed if he was vaxxed or not. I think both are keeping it private.

I do believe they deserve a choice whether to be vaxxed or not for reasons I've expressed. Did you see Brad Beal's comments? He isn't vaxxed cause he got covid already. Sometimes you guys act like I'm the only one who has been vaxxed who shares this opinion. You don't ever listen to Clay Travis do you? Or Whitlock? They express rational feelings all the time. ON BEAL First brad beal said as quoted by washington post: "“Every player, every person in this world is going to make their own decision for themselves,” Beal said. “I would like an explanation to, you know, people with vaccines. Why are they still getting covid? If that’s something that we are supposed to highly be protected from, like it’s funny that it only reduces your chances of going to the hospital. It doesn’t eliminate anybody from getting covid, right? So is everybody in here vaxxed, I would assume? Right. So you all can still get covid, right?” Chase Hughes of NBC Sports Washington responded: “We’re less likely to die or go to the hospital.” Beal shrugged his left shoulder: “Okay, but, you can still get covid Right,” Beal said. “And you can still pass it along with the vax, right? So I’m just asking the question.” But he was staunch in his belief that receiving a vaccine is his personal choice. That he has already contracted the disease, and missed out on winning a gold medal in Tokyo as a result, had no influence on his decision. “My mom and dad are vaccinated. My older brothers are vaccinated. My sister-in-law is vaccinated. I know people that have people who are very close that are vaccinated just as well as I have people that are close to me, related to me, that are not,” Beal said. “So it’s a fine line. It’s a personal choice between everybody, 100 percent. I understand both sides of it. I understand that there is a percentage of people who can get very sick. I didn’t get sick; I didn’t get sick at all. I lost my smell. But that was it for me. Everybody is going to react different.”

I believe it was the Lambda variant that got discovered in Cali or somewhere I was worried about.

I didn't want to ignore your post. so I'll have a short response. I disagree.

I don't think anybody on this board has refused to get vaxed because of me. If u are vaccine hesitant because of me, please pm me. I do not encourage that. I just personally have problems with various aspects of Covid as mentioned in my prior post. Thus I sympathize with the vax haters.

Wow. Thanks for sharing. Indeed it's frightening and sad and I feel for the guy. These stories people post once in a while are helpful as they remind the 'odds' lean to those who get vaxxed.

I hope you believe I got both jabs. I did. If you had to define me I'm not anti vax, I'm just a disbeliever right now in pretty much everybody involved with the vaccine, from scientists (I like to know 100 percent where this virus came from and have not been satisfied), politicians (I won't get into that), media (selective coverage), talking heads on cable TV. I do trust my doctor. He told me to get vaxxed. I think my posts would make more sense if I went off about the people I truly distrust but that isn't going to get me anywhere but banned so I appear as a "voice" for the anti vax I guess cause I feel their pain. I understand their position and don't label them all nutjobs. But when asked in real life I tell people I got two jabs with more on the way cause that's true. I do not go off about all my concerns. I think I've been a damn fine citizen, not only doing what I was asked to do but encouraging others to get vaxxed. If I've vented on a message board to help myself stay sane thru Covid, thanks in advance for listening. I've always welcomed all opinions; some on here do NOT wanna hear mine, that's for sure. But there are options like ignoring my posts or blasting me in response. It's just a forum. I'm not hurting anybody in real life. As I said I encourage the vax when asked. p.s. Howard Stern show today ran some clips of the two Alabama radio people who were loud anti vaxxers, recently got Covid and are now dead. They were rude and obnoxious and probably convinced some others to not get vaxxed and 'caused' those deaths too. That's despicable and also sad. They didn't want to die. They probably share my distrust of everybody, yet did not come to my conclusion: that the odds were best to get the jabs and hope to survive the darkest moment in our lives (Covid) to date.

The skeptics would rather take the chance that their case of Covid won't be that bad if they get it than be one of those rare individuals who die after getting vaxxed. Not me. I'll take the odds that being vaxxed will prevent severe symptoms in my body when I get covid. I'd be all for a re-do. Have daily town halls on TV where people calmly discuss the issue. I should be more intolerant of those who refuse to get vaxxed, but for some reason I'm much more angry at some politicians and Fauci and others than I am the anti vaxxers. I wish the skeptics would, like me, get vaccinated anyway.100 percent vaccinated would probably end Covid instead of keeping it going. But I can't force the skeptics to get vacced. I do wonder why you hear about a shortage of nurses and other hospital workers and folks in the armed forces who quit cause they didn't want to get vaxxed. Why are some medical workers refusing the jab? This is what the anti vaxxers ask. So is there a new variant starting or not? Anthing to be concerned about?

That's a great example. I enjoyed and endorsed your whole post until the last paragraph. The reason? I think they deserve to have people in their corner because there's still a lot of unknowns re. the vaccines. For instance, the unvaxxed believe getting vaxxed down the line will wreck our immune systems for the next variant. When scientists tell them that's bunk, they remain dug in because they don't trust the scientists. So it's a revolving door not caused by them but by the way covid has been handled. They are skeptics. I totally agree with your roulette analogy. Another one that people should copy and paste and show the anti vaxxers.

Well, I know people who have been vaxxed and have gotten Covid and their symptoms have not killed them or hospitalized them, but affected them. I mean, I don't want to list their names and contact info but it scares the heck out of me. Yes I'm an entitled spoiled person but I don't even want the lesser symptoms like loss of taste, a cough that won't go away, no energy. My friend I talked to last night lives in Dallas and he's vaxxed but got Covid a month ago and is still coughing a ton. He's married with kids. I was talking to one person who is vaxxed and got Covid and said it sucked. You saw Chris Rock's statement. Vaxxed and got covid and said you don't want to get it.

I agree Garrison is on the wrong side of this issue and it's too bad he's got Covid. Being unvaxxed, his symptoms might kill him. I don't think hospitals and doctors are killing Covid patients as he does. I still contend radicals like the cartoonist got there through mistrust ... mistrust of Fauci, the media, the politicians. That's where we are at and there are hundreds of thousands of people who feel as this cartoonist does. My only point was it's not just him waking up one day being a nutjob. He got there because of ALL the noise surrounding Covid.

Fair enough. I mean I trust the person who told me about their family situation but you make good points as well.

I don't know why you don't believe my friend's situation. Any how, not all the anti vaccers are loud. The one lady at church who won't get vaxxed hasn't even brought up Covid to me again since we had the discussion. I actually encouraged her to go where I got vaxxed and speak to the pharmacist. They are reassuring at the pharm and might help convince you. She said no way, but hasn't even brought it up again. So it's not like all the vaxxed are loud and ignorant. They are scared. Be that as it may, never forget I am pro vax regarding Covid. I hate like heck I will have to get a third shot as each vax does scare me.

Believe it. Some peeps have had adverse reax to the jabs and thus their loved ones are worried/skeptical of the jabs. The question is will the country start becoming more tolerant of each other and empathize with each other's concerns? Or will we seek each other out on the street and attack each other? There's a good chunk of this country unwilling to be vaxxed and I prefer the days in which people killed each other with kindness rather than simply discarding them as if they are worthless nutjobs. My friend's situation didn't bring out empathy in you?

You and Tony's posts are OK. They make me think about my position and empathy for many of the unvaxxed. Tony you wrote this. I have a sincere question to follow. You wrote: "You know why people aren’t civil anymore? Because of dumb shit like this. The vaccine isn’t full proof. No vaccine is. But it goes to great lengths to protect you. It should be an incredibly easy decision for those with even the slightest ounce of brain power. But we’ve seen countless times we are running dangerously low on supply of that right now. " Easy decision you say? What say you to this TRUE instance (please believe me; I don't lie for the sake of my argument). What do you say to my sister in law's sister? Her son, who is 26 has been a mess physically since getting jabbed. She understandably now won't get jabbed nor will her hubby. They don't trust science or government when their own flesh and blood is hurting Here's what she sent me. What is your response to her Tony? Compassion or not? Is she a nutjob? No, of course not. She wrote me: "My son still isn’t okay since the f-I got jab. He works remotely from our house, so he’s getting through the days. He’s seen his GP and a cardiologist but nothing has shown up abnormal so far. Next week he’ll see a gastroenterologist. If that guy doesn’t find the problem, he’ll see a pulmonary specialist. And on and on and on. Still in pain." And a friend of her's husband is in physical straits since he got jabbed. Your post was quite angry to the unvacced. I tend to feel for those with stories like these. Again they are not all nutjob conspiracy theorists.

I wouldn't wear it but this actually wouldn't be a bad T-shirt saying or line on a resume: It has a nice ring to it. Give somebody a custom made T shirt that says: "Caution: This person is either a troll, intentionally ignorant or remarkably dumb." It rolls off the tongue and is an effective insult in 2021.

You always assume I am speaking for myself. I try because I'm really the only person on here with a dissenting Covid opinion (who posts) to point out what the anti vaccers are thinking and trying to say they are not all nutjobs. And believe me some are seeing that vaccinated individuals have died from Covid and that scares THEM. What's wrong with me trying to stand up for the anti-vaxxers position and trying to explain it? I like my odds of not dying since I got vaxxed. That's why I got vaxxed. I'm personally distressed anybody died and yes the fact 43 who got vaxxed still died troubles me about the severity of this virus.

That's sad. I love health care workers who have worked amid the year and a half crisis. They are the true heroes trying to help covid infested patients live by running the respirators, etc. Who would threaten a health care worker?

Not necessarily. In the article Beast submitted, it said 43 of the 9,000 who died between Feb. and July in Texas were vaccinated. Cold hard stats support your position and mine that one "should" be vaccinated. That stat in fact tells us an overwhelming number, "almost" all the deaths are of the unvaxxed. There are plenty of normal people who would rather take their chances than be one of the 43 vaxxed who died. Not every member of the unvaxxed falls into the category u believe they do. Like Beast's article said "some are scared." it's not they believe propaganda they are scared and also distrust the government and the figures. I do respect your "right and wrong" statement. it is shared by Stern and I understand why many think that way.