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The Chiefs fans do the chop also. I personally don't like the chop. Grown people doing that seems silly and if it offends Native Americans should be eliminated IMO. Life's too short to go around offending people when it could easily be eliminated. I think somebody was saying KC Chiefs could just as easily switch to KC Chefs. Have a baker's hat be the logo.

Spiders is perfect! Just my opinion, but Guardians sounds woke so it was a no brainer to pick that name to please the mob. Cleveland Spiders would have been special. Guardians sounds either a.) mighty woke or b.) like a life insurance company. Me no likey. Spiders forever.

Tony has lost all credibility with me. I was a big fan of the move to bring him aboard, although I would have been OK with the team jettisoning him after news of the second DUI came out. Tony had a full month to think about the playoffs. I thought he would magically lead this young club to the title. Instead the Sox got smoked. Considering the quick flameout, RR shoulda been allowed to manage the team another year. Tony has quickly agreed to the new baseball norm of only using a starter 2 or three innings. And he's OK with the lift and pull offensive strategy. HR or K is fine with him. Disappointing. He's just another guy, nothing special IMO.

Madrigal obviously doesn't fit the criteria for a ballplayer in 2021. He makes contact and will never blast a ton of homers. I liked him, though. The guy from the Guardians who came over didn't show any power as a member of the Sox.

Please, please please baseball gods, give Ozzie the Pods' job. Certainly he's been humbled by what went down in Miami. They could and should have a clause in his contract regarding his behavior in terms of public comments. Now we all have freedom of speech in the USA, but the Pods could add a clause saying he can be terminated without pay if the organization deems any of his statements to the press detrimental to the organization as determined by a committee of select individuals to be chosen after Ozzie's firing.

No. No. No. No. No. Cmon now. You can't go implying Steve Stone has a 'pattern' going on. He's a baseball guy who is paid to assess skills, effort, etc. Give specific examples or apologize to Stone.

Nobody except Tim really hits for average any more. Sheets did fine in terms of new baseball. Uppercutting home runs and striking out. He looks like he's going to be very good. He had a great junior season in college and was a second round pick. He turns 26 in April so it's pretty much now or never for Sheets in terms of today's productive years before being dismissed as aging. He's got 5 seasons of raking ahead and the clock starts now on that.

Regarding my own eye test, Jose had a lot of bad at bats last season when I was watching. Almost like if he worked the count deep he ended up striking out and if he went to attack the first or second pitch he grounded out. In the past, the games I watched (many of them, I wouldn't say most of them) he saw the ball, hit the ball, raked the ball. He had a bleep ton of RBIs again so he had a good year again. I wonder if he can do more next season tho.

Abreu is still a vital cog. I hope he stays healthy. This team's flop in the playoffs really changes my outlook on the "rebuild." Sox pitching staff is really in shambles following the decline of Keuchel and dead arm or whatever Rodon had. Also, Lynn wasn't exactly money in the playoffs and Cease wasn't either. The bullpen is not lockdown. Liam had a nice year but also was far from automatic. The lineup? Injury after injury. Rick Hahn needs to address injuries. No excuse when you are a team like the White Sox to not have the BEST trainers. Maybe the Sox do have the best. I sure hope so. As far as Jose ... I could see him having an even better year next year. If I had to guess ... a monster year next year and Sox win it all. After that his decline begins. Sox lineup could be deadly with Robert and Eloy and Adolpho coming with Timmy and the many other bats. Sheets looks like a star; Vaughn and Burger MLB quality bats.

And a shortened season championship would be so bad. The Sox's young players need to play during this window of opportunity. It's not all about a short season WS title; it's about enjoying the emergence of Eloy, Robert, Moncada, Tim, Collins, Sheets, Vaughn, Burger.

With all the Sox injuries (yes Leury gets hurt, too) he's a pretty important piece of the roster/lineup.

Tanking is one of the biggest reasons sports generally reek nowadays. It's a horrific way to 'build' a team for a small window of greatness. If Sox can get a title out of it like the Cubs, one title, I guess that's a huge success nowadays.

If he trades Vaughn or Eloy you rebuilding fans will have your rebuilding plan torn up completely. Eloy is a huge piece of the rebuilding.

Eloy and Robert could be true stars next season to go with Tim and Moncada. Those are four bonafide stars potentially if healthy. I mean sizzling ALL SEASON. Jose also might have another MVPish season left in him. At the worst same type season as this year. Vaughn and/or Sheets could really be good. Not as optimistic for ANY of the pitchers though, which is a problem. Maybe Cease and Kopech and Gio. The stars need to shine. And Tony must do a better job.

I like Tony a lot. I just hope next year he takes command more. I think because of all the injuries he figured he was getting about all he could out of this team. He might be right. Cmon Tony. Be a leader next year. Tell the front office to hell with analytics and get a contact hitting second baseman to go with all the big bats in the lineup. And a defensive minded catcher. Also the hell with analytics and get your fricking starting pitchers to extend to seven innings. The White Sox will never have a bullpen reliably capable of covering part of the 5th, into the 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th. This year was freaky because of all the injuries. Somebody needs to grill Hahn at Soxfest about getting better trainers in town. This is absurd that the Sox are not at the TOP of the medical field if they are not. QUIT GETTING HURT!

That's fine with me. Vaughn and Sheets look good. The improvement needs to be at catcher (trade Grandal), 2B (can we get Madrigal back?) and tons of new pitchers needed.

None of those guys except Abreu would bring back much in a trade thus they'll all be staying IMO. Sheets and Vaughn look like nice prospects. Trade Burger if you must but he won't bring much. I think the Sox should trade Grandal. Let Collins catch along with a defensive whiz who can't hit that you can acquire. Sox need a new second baseman (Madrigal type would be perfect there, damn), a new catcher, a solution in right field (Vaughn or Sheets?) and lots of pitching help.

Dump Kimbrel for whatever you can get. He's obviously not a set up man.

I disagree. My disagreement is the Sox definitely had the roster, on paper, to make the WS. It would have required a lot of White Sox hitting well, pitching well, fielding OK. Sox played poorly and for me the lasting image is Frank Thomas in studio sadly shaking his head at the rotten series the Sox played. Sox thought they had it all figured out at the trade deadline when they had 7th, 8th and 9th innings allegedly knocked down with bullpen studs and had 2B fixed with a second baseman with some power. Everybody failed, including Tony who zombielike, just tried his best to have a healthy roster come October. Sox deserve an A for their full body of work but an F for the postseason and F for roster management.

I'm sick of it. Even LaRussa, an old timer, has given into it. Baseball like most companies let the consultants get to the decision makers. This modern philosophy of pitching and trying to score runs has taken over and the game is so damn boring. Good luck to pitchers trying to get in the Hall of Fame in the future. I guess it'll be reserved for closers and the best of the beset home run hitters and that's it. Don't even call them starting pitchers anymore. Third time through the order and most fans want that starter OUT. You face a hitter twice and that's it.

I'm sick of babying pitchers. No starter deserves a huge contract in the future if all they can give in a big game is three innings. What a joke. The babying of pitchers should reduce their incomes for sure. Who would pay Rodon for going what, 1 2/3 innings? Who would pay any of these guys. What did Keuchel have with the Sox? One good year? Cooper would not baby them! I was reading an interview with Gary Peters or one of the old timers who said his arm hurt all the time. You frickin pitch or you don't.

you sound like greg. That's what I always said in sticking up for Ozzie. I was buried so badly on this board for my Ozzie love.

If Sox knew they would bow out in first round again, no reason to not let RR come back. He arguably was just as bad as Tony. Frankly I'd rather have had Cooper run this pitching staff, too.

Yeah but hungry for what? You win the division and that's not nuff. Sox need to win 110 games and not let the foot off the pedal in postseason.

Good post. As cheap as our favorite organization allegedly is and how poorly managed the squad has been except for Oz (in my opinion until he got Sunday lineup crazy), there is something special about the White Sox. Frank Thomas was visibly p----d on the postgame show, shaking his head repeatedly. Even Frank who wound up playing for Oakland and Toronto is obviously a big White Sox fan. Maybe it's the incredible uniforms or the team's knowledgable diehard fans, or Jerry's loyalty to players, the guys who play for the Sox love the Sox forever. So win next year baby. If the Sox tank next season either in the regular season or first round it will be extremely disappointing. Somebody has to figure out modern baseball in our organization and put together a plan pitching wise that works. The team defense at catcher could certainly improve and whoever takes over in RF better be a slugger and not a sieve defensively. We enter the offseason stumbling a bit as Madrigal would have been a nice piece in this lineup and now we need to find somebody acceptable, yes a bit better than super utiility man Leury. Get rid of Kimbrel somehow and build back a better bullpen. Personally I'd ask Tony to go away and pick a damn fine manager for once. Ozzie would be great but that's not happening. Don't name a former player or former sox manager if it's not Ozzie this time. Cmon Sox, next year is your year. The Central blows chunks.