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A one-hitter. These starters are so inconsistent and that must change. But for today I won't think that way. I will applaud Lopez. 11 strikeouts. Can you imagine if we got the good Lopez to go with the good Cease and good Gio plus the good Kopech? That would be 4 lights out starters. And the good Nova as a No. 5? As we know he's reeked and had stellar outings too. Cooper should be ashamed of himself. He has so much raw talent to work with. Let's get it done. Can you imagine how cheaply the White Sox could win a WS if those four starters were great and Jerry only needed "maybe" one free agent starter. And only needed "maybe" one free agent right fielder. He could make this a game and try to win a WS with the cheapest payroll ever. These are just observations. I do not want Jerry to get any richer than he is.

It's incredible. It's funny how "cliche fans" have changed. It used to be fans "fell in love with" or "had high respect for" the veterans who actually produced. Now the message board fan at least grows very tired of the guys who have been around a while, guys like Jose. I prefer it the other way. At least some of you have Abreu jerseys. So how many of you own Jose Abreu Sox jerseys? Hopefully 10 or more.

No comment.

Two hits; two more RBI, another HR. This man is having a sensational age 32 season. He turns 33 at end of January.

That's disgusting and proves without a shadow of a doubt Avi woulda been great in RF this year. He's making something like 2.5 mill or 3 mill a year for gosh sakes.

Oops we Abreu backers have to cower. He's hitless again tonight. I think it's two games in a row after his hot sizz. Of course nobody praised him for all those multi hit games in August.

Tell him he's our left fielder. Case closed. Tell him it's up to him to get better this offseason. Outline where he needs to go; what he needs to do. Give him October and November off then ship him to Arizona for January, then give him a few weeks off before start of spring training. He's such a good hitter; it's up to him to field a bit.

That was perceptive. He also reminds me of De Aza.

Palka is hitting .019. For gosh sakes, release the poor fella. Send him to another organization. .019 is about as low as I've ever seen an official batting average.

If anybody was serious about Gordon, it shows the insanity of message boards. Think how old he is in a world we now think of 32 as old. Think how little production he gives. Same message board with a lotta people hating on Jose Abreu and somebody wants elder Alex Gordon who provides nothing with the bat?

Nice post. I'd go with 2 RP. I trust Colome. Bummer is pretty good. Herrera is not that good. What manager gets to work with this team? If you get rid of Ricky, it's Omar. Wouldn't you rather let Ricky start the season if the alternative is Omar?

I wanna hear why Cease was so good. So encouraging. Really encouraging. I know, it's probably just him getting used to this level. A big night for Rick Hahn. He looks like a genius with Eloy, Moncada, Cease, Collins, etc.

No. I'm just saying you don't need a star who rates well offensively at every position. It's like we're trying to make sure every guy in the everyday lineup is exceptional WAR. In 05 we didn't exactly fill the lineup card with all stars. I won't look up their WAR but how good was the WAR of Uribe, Pods, AJ, Dye, Rowand, Crede, Everett, Iguchi, etc. That's why I DEMAND we keep Jose Abreu around. You need some glue guys, folks, not an all star version of WAR at every position. 05 had Mark B and Paulie and AJ and Dye for gosh sakes. Winners. Next time the White Sox make the WS it just might be because of defense and pitching again not high WAR at every infield outfield and catching and DH position. Yes, for all we know it might be 20 years til it gels again.

Then it's really changed since 05. Sometimes teams click with good players plus ordinary players and excellent pitching. We don't have near the pitching it's going to take but we have the every day players.

Then how did we win it in 05?

If we don't want Avi, why not give Leury a shot at playing on a team with a chance to win something? He's not a bad player. We don't need 8 phenoms playing every day in the lineup.

Interesting take, Jose. I never thought of that. Ozzie made a lot of errors too as I recall and he was dandy overall. Leave Timmy alone. I'd write an essay for you guys on where I would suggest moving Timmy, but I think that's what finally got me suspended last time. Nobody let me defend my position on him in a court of message board law; they thought I was trolling. Leave Timmy at short. He's a star who loses interest IMO during meaningless routs. Let's see a chart of when his errors were committed in games and the score at the time.

For some reason I read that as Adam Engel and wondered why u would want him. Then I read closer.

What's wrong with Leury? Spend the money on all pitching. Or Leury/Avi. Neither make any money and are not too bad.

It's this current group of players PLUS Collins, Robert, Madrigal and Vaughn. Plus Basabe, Rutherford. Also Kopech and Dunning and Stiever. There's your core group. Can that group plus our current players dominate with a few free agents to help? That is the question.

It's one of the negatives of a rebuild (don't shoot the messenger, it happens to be true). The roster makeup is such this team can't contend for the postsason so it's human nature to not give a bleep the final six weeks or so. I know baseball is a fun game, but a lot of the guys are nicked up, too. I'm just saying until we field a roster that's capable of vying for postseason play, the team will probably limp home playing this kind of baseball. When the team gets good, you'll probably see half the errors from say, Anderson. Just my take. It's easy for lousy teams to be lousy year after year, look at the dregs teams in the NFL and NBA as well as MLB.

No offense, but isn't Avi basically the same player as Ozuna? About the same age. Ozuna has drawn 45 walks to Avi's 29 in fewer plate appearances and he's whacked about six more homers. Ozuna has 17 more RBI which apparently means nothing with RBI stats discarded. Ozuna makes 12 mill; Avi 3.5 mill. Since the Sox seem to be enjoying not spending a lot of money aside from bonus money isn't it smarter to sign Avi two years 6.5 mill a year instead of Ozuna two years 15 million a year? It's not like we're going to need a superstar in right. Avi figures to pick up the home run pace back in the The Cell. Just saying ... Ozuna's stats don't scream "sign me!" I don't really care either way, but obviously I'd like Avi back if guys like Rutherford aren't going to make it. I guess Leury in right would be just as good as Avi as well.

Sox are back in the dumpster at 60-76. Terrible record. 33-35 at home. Only bright spot this season compared to the other tank seasons. Some nice home wins. Pathetic baseball team overall. Poorly put together squad in all aspects. However, forgivable (not to me) to many cause it's still rebuild/tank time. I'd describe the Sox this way: Some very good prospects in the everyday lineup. Just one or two starting pitchers have shown possibility of being elite. One elite reliever (I'll let you guys say two, I'm not a Bummer fanatic). Some very good prospects close to majors. Team need influx of pitching from outside the organization to hit the coveted .500 mark next season or more likely 2021. Projected playoff team: Likely 2022 if squad can stay healthy.

So the Sox are in the argument for worst franchise in baseball history?

Should be interesting to see how these guys play when we have a good team. My guess is they'll do well when the games mean something. During the tank years there's been a reward for losing in the draft pick.