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I would feel better if Robin would admit he did a s*** job this year. He was proclaiming playoffs before the season. We're 10 under .500 for goshsakes.

You can't trade him cause the goal is to win. We have a pitching staff, aside from some awful relievers, is playoff caliber. Our ONLY hope is to keep all these pitchers except for the trash relievers and work on the everyday lineup.

Guys I don't make up this stuff. Go ahead and blame the messenger, this investigative reporter obviously made all this stuff up. I like the last quote: A person with Hillary's temperament should not even be hired by a McDonalds much less the presidency. She is evil, but go ahead and blame the messenger. http://nypost.com/2015/10/02/secret-servic...e-to-work-with/

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 08:12 PM) Greg - I believe everything your saying and cop might have been that way, but you broke the law and deserved the ticket. Problem with rolling is the times that you drive on autopilot you very well might roll and not realize someone else is there. Could he have been nice and let you off, sure, but doesn't make him a dick because he didn't. That said, he could very well have been a jerk to you. You also have to remember that anytime an officer pulls someone over, it could be the last person they pull over. Never know who might pull something, etc...always on their guard. Makes sense. QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 08:24 PM) Rule of thumb, dont do anything wrong on the roads in oak park. Why? Are they especially stringent?

Congrats. Chris Sale, you are a superstar and thank you for not demaning a trade from this sorry team! Thank u!

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 3, 2015 -> 02:34 AM) Next year should be do or die for Ventura and Hahn. They clearly want to go for it again, so there needs to be good transactions and Ventura needs them ready out of the gate. Good point, fathom. My question is ... are they going to extend Robin or is it the last year on his contract? The players matter much more than the manager and we have lousy players, sure, but like I said before the White Sox style of play reflects VERY BADLY on Robin: Horrible bunting (and yet he calls for bunts like all managers do when they need to move a runner in certain situations), gawd-awful defense, just horrendous; piss poor baserunning; amazingly bad situational hitting (guys won't go the other way when we NEED a hit, even with the shift on, granted this is not just a White sox problem). Basically the only thing I think Robin does well is manage the pitching staff (the best manager in baseball history couldn't do better maneuvering bullpen pieces since most of our bullpen pitchers have been abysmal the past few years) and manage well in extra inning games (except the 2 every year we run out of pitchers). Overall I'd give him a D-plus as a manager. You guys willing to grade him??

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 3, 2015 -> 02:07 AM) Ya know, I have Ventura fatigue. No more. Sorry. Jerry obviously won't fire him. Loyalty baby.

Whatever ... I hope Robin changes a bit. Obviously talent is the biggest thing for a manager. But his teams simply cannot lay down a bunt (reflects poorly on him), they do not play defense, they cannot move runners, they cannot score runners. He does a decent enough job with pitchers (maybe Coop takes care of that). Now maybe it's 100 percent on his players. Who knows? But Robin's teams APPEAR very undisciplined, very fundamentally unsound. He deserves a D for this season, C- at best but I'd give him a D.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 03:53 PM) Disagree, my line was called for and delivered. Trust me, in no definition of dick was I being a dick. The definition of polite was me. I pulled over instantly, not even 50 yards from the stop sign. I did everything he asked. I never once spoke in anything but a respectful tone, albeit a bit too chatty. I f***ing apologized to him twice personally for barely rolling a stop sign to which he had no response. I don't really understand why your line was called for and delivered. Trust me, this cop had dickish tendencies. I did not in this case. You won't even acknowledge the cop might have had some dick in him. I would ask all board members: Considering it was 1 a.m., he knew I wasn't drunk, it was a fricking side street, I did stop yet admittedly not completely and rolled through the stop sign, cmon the guy was a bastard for writing me up and costing me 140 bucks wouldn't you say?? I mean you have to be an asshole by definition to give somebody a ticket for a stop sign violation unless you are ordered to raise money on the last day of the month (although it was after midnight technically on the 1st).

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 12:22 AM) So banning guns would be worse because....people would just substitute knives and bombs? I'm almost to the point of agreeing with Greg again, that if the media didn't report for days and days about the shooters and their psychological issues, some of the motivation consequently be would be removed. One of the first social media quotes to come out was about the shooter's feelings of insignificance. "This is the only time I'll be in the news." According to the Oregonian newspaper, the shooter reportedly "asked people to state their religion" before opening fire. Of course, going back at least to John Hinckley almost 35 years ago...you have that same driving force (desire for fame) present in many of these shootings. So now we're getting the predictable stories about the killer and his mother, etc. The killer is glorified forever. The rinse, repeat media cycle will get around to writing about those who were killed (maybe). I guess the more of these incidents we have, the lazier the media will get in reporting about who died. I mean, in reality, the masses don't really care about who the 9 are who died. Those have been made secondary stories -- "ah isn't it a shame that the 19 year old who was shot in the face five times volunteered every summer for the peace corps" Nobody cares. But the media makes us hear about the killer, all his beliefs/motivations, blah blah. f*** the killer. f*** him!!! I say if it's obvious that it's not a deal where others were involved or he reprents ISIS or somebody ... STOP THE COVERAGE OF THE KILLER!!! These people want to be famous and are going to continue plotting these murders. Right now you damn well know THOUSANDS of cowards in the US of A are thinking about how they are going to make a splash and go out with a bang. Just pray you aren't the poor helpless unarmed sap sitting in church when some crazy busts through the doors with a machine gun. Or at a pep rally at a high school and somebody comes blazing in firing away. Or at a library or in an adult education class when some f***tard comes in and starts shooting. Stop the madness and quit telling us about these assholes, Mr. and Ms. MEDIA!!!! Take away the fame aspect of this!!!

Not trying to start a fight, just defend myself and Ozzie. So the Sox fire Parent with a weekend to go of meaningless games. I guess Hahn quit on the team by removing somebody before all games were played. Uh ... this is meaningless just like Ozzie leaving with a week to go meant NOTHING. Both teams sucked beyond belief and it mattered not. I don't know why Robin would want to stay BTW. This team is going to suck again next year. Why does he want to manage bad hitting and defensive players.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 04:16 PM) And not for nothing, but while you're busy trying to lay blame on the officer for being a dick...you're the one that broke the law knowing the possible consequences. Is he a dick for not letting you off, or are you the dick for breaking the law and then blaming him for being a dick? I said I was guilty. Your line is uncalled for. I said I broke the law. The reason I said he "seemed" like a dick is uh, because he did seem like a dick. He mentioned twice my court date like I was going to go to court over this. He said I could mail it in or pay online. I said surprisedly, "I can pay online?" He got prickish and said, "what's that?" while an amazingly bright light was still lighting up my car and my face. I got the sense he was hoping he had a shot at me slurring my words being drunk even tho I don't drink. I just sensed he might be a prick. QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 04:34 PM) I think the quote of not concentrating got you the ticket. They could have and probably should have given you a warning especially if you didn't totally blow of the sign. Rolling stop at least is better than flying through. I tend to agree. The more I think about it, me being chatty instead of letting him be a powerful big shot and control the conversation nailed me. I did think of something later I wish I'd done. After I signed the ticket, I wish I'd said very politely. "Hey I always have had this question. Can I ask you a question?" He'd think I was going to be a prick then. I'd say, "I've always wanted to go along with an officer during his night shift. Do you know if our police department would allow me to go with you or some other officer? How would I go about setting that up?" What would he say? "f*** if I know, man." Or would he be helpful. At any rate I think it'd be an effective come back after getting a ticket for f***ing rolling a stop sign. I mean the more I think of it. I've had no tickets in a year or two at all! I have never broken the law except for speeding years ago. And this prick nails me at 1 a.m for rolling a stop sign?? On a side street? No traffic in sight?? My god. He hit the jackpot making 140 dollars for the city which i've already mailed in.

Obama gave a good speech today following the shootings. For those who say he's not religious, BTW, catch the final 30 seconds of his speech. It's all about God. Obama makes a great line early in the speech. He says many groups will say this proves we need more guns. He said, "Does anybody really believe that??" Good job telling it like it is. Aren't even responsible gun owners sickened by all this? Like Obama said, other countries have mental illness and they don't have these shooting problems. Our country is a cesspool with Americans getting off on killing Americans with enough ammo to kill hundreds. Sick and sad.

So according to CNN the gunman makes the students stand up and asks 'em if they are Christian. So if you they said yes he says 'good you are going to see God in a couple seconds' and blows you away. I mean what horror. I don't know what he did to the people who said they were not Christian. p.s. I don't care what you who say crime is down say. Our country is a f***ing warzone and nobody is gonna tell me otherwise. At any moment you or your loved ones can be gunned down. And you will have no chance to fight back. Now you have to be asked if to renounce your faith or get shot in the face. Geez what a life.

I don't give a frick what any of you guys say when you blast me for 'overreacting.' Every 2 weeks now it seems we get one of these. The TV thing where the 2 got killed was the last one I believe; Out of the news cycle finally now this one. this one is really really bad. Ten killed? Let's hear all about the gunman, his life story, rinse and repeat. WTF is wrong with the United States of America?? If it's simply mental illness, well we are in trouble trouble trouble. Cause we're just now starting to create a generation of mentally ill people with all the drugs people have been on since childhood. Seriously, there are probably thousands of people considering or planning the same type of attacks. Is that an overreaction? Thousands? I'd say thousands are considering going out in style with multi mass murder attacks right now! Let's face it. No matter your position on gun control, it's pretty damn easy for these nutjobs to get their hands on the weapons they'll need to carry out their attacks. I wonder who will be the first to get a hand grenade somehow. What creeps these gunmen are. I mean what cowards. They go into places like the church and the classroom and start firing. And nobody else can fight back cause they are not armed. Asshole murderers! I'm sick of this; so sick of this. And the next one will probably be coming two weeks from now. I pray all of you and yours are safe. I leave you with this paragraph from cnn: "One law enforcement official said the shooter had body armor with him and was heavily armed, with a large amount of ammunition -- enough for a prolonged gunfight. Authorities recovered three pistols and one rifle at the scene, one official said." Good Lord. WTF. What a fricking coward. He gets the guns and ammo; the average joe who was in the wrong place at the wrong time has nothing. All these murders!!!

We stink. I think it's time to build a new stadium like the Braves do every 20 years or so. Cmon. Build it downtown, make it a palace and make a commitment to excellence for the next 50 years.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 02:48 AM) Congrats Jose 30/100 first 2 years. What a great player! And he hasn't complained about playing for a non-contender which is cool I guess. He's excellent player.

Hey, good to see that series in Kauffman was a fluke. We lost 2 of 3 to KC again at home. My boy, Johnny Danks, is out of gas. He shoulda been shut down all of September IMO. This being a s***ty team sucks. I don't see much chance of improvement next year. Only Detroit seems as wretched as us on paper.

So it's 12:45 a.m., Oct 1, and I'm driving home after leaving the office and getting some snacks. Yes, I roll a stop sign on a side street, not a major road. Cop pulls me over and I immediately signal and pull over. He comes up, gets my license and insurance. He tells me he stopped me for rolling the stop sign. Obviously that time of night they are looking for drunks. I haven't had a drink even in a couple years believe it or not. He comes back and says, 'i am going to ticket you for the stop sign violation.' I told him it was late and I guess I wasn't concentrating and said sorry twice that I wasn't paying attention. I still get the ticket despite the fact nobody's on the road at that time on this side street. My question to you is ... was this a monetary decision by the cop? End of the month, beginning of new month? Pressure to make some $$$ for the city? Or b.) did I get the ticket for being too chatty. I mean I was very nice, but I offered up to him what I was doing. I said I had left work and went and got a snack on the way home and wasn't paying attention. I didn't give him the opportunity if he wanted to ask me a question and have me answer apologetically. I merely was apologetic to begin with so I may have blown it by not letting him take control and try to get me to beg. Is it the old, "f*** you nice guy. I'm a f***ing cop and I'm ringing you up." Or was it b.) listen bub, we need money in this city and by rolling that stop sign you just gave us a cool hundred bucks, chump!" Which is it. I mean, cmon. that time of night. Side street? No cars in the area? Yes I f***ed up big time in not coming to a complete stop. But geez. ... Tough to stomach. If I am a law breaking person, and deserve to get slapped by that cop, tell me. I can take it. I had no previous tickets this past year; I don't know if that shows up or not when he calls in my information. p.s. the cop did seem like potentially a dick. He told me they were having problems at that intersection. I really truly felt like saying but obviously didn't: "At 1 a.m.? With no traffic at all around? COngratulations on raising 140 bucks for your department, officer. You got me. I rolled the sign; no doubt I did but nooo you couldn't let me off." I'm telling you I was 100 percent nice not even a hint of my being a dick. Like I said I was a bit overly friendly however. I was hoping he'd ask me if I had a drink but he didn't even go there. --humor me and tell me when u got your last ticket for a driving violation or parking.

Hawk convinced me a year ago Micah was gonna be a superstar. Now he's just a blah prospect. What happened? I was hoping he was the next Ray Durham.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 04:30 AM) From throwing way too many cutters... Hahn set the MLB record for worst trade deadline performance. Not dealing Shark. Keeping Robertson pointlessly when that money should have been invested into a starting position player. Not getting anything for Albers, Putnam, Petricka, Duke, etc. I'll never understand not dealing Shark a month BEFORE the deadline. It was obvious our team sucked and you can't convince me we couldn't have gotten some nice pieces.

Plays like that save games. He has to replace Melky next year in left. Just get rid of Melkster or Garcia.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 12:54 PM) Quintana deserves a nice round of applause tonight. It's not his fault his team sucks. Too bad there will again only be about 8000 fans there and 6000 of em Royals fans.

I kind of like this beating of the Royals. I don't know what it means but that's four in a row. Earlier this year that's an automatic loss. Moustakas would have smashed a hit off the wall with KC down 3-2 and Duke pitching in the eighth with two runners on. KC woulda just devoured us late. Now ... we win again over those assholes. Nine under .500 is such an embarrassment though. This offseason will mean a lot for the Sox franchise. If the Cubs somehow make the World Series or become last year's Royals, the darlings of the postseason, good luck to the Sox getting any coverage at all until the cub dynasty is over.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Sep 29, 2015 -> 10:08 PM) This will be an interesting one.....If it gets to court it should take about 6 seconds to dismiss...But we are talking about the leftist paradise of Cally. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/calif-kin...SAu3?li=AAa0dzB It's a private institution. Their handbook says no homosexuality.Shouldn't they find a more welcoming kindergarten? Maybe they'll win the lawsuit of all lawsuits that changes the rules for good.