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It used to be that owners would get mad at their players for stealing money and visit the clubhouse and kick some ass. Now, everybody is making so much Monopoly money, nobody cares about the kind of money that is being wasted on this incompetent team. But they probably try to save pennies with everybody else who works for the team i'm sure (grounds crew, etc)

This team is not capable of a four game win streak. Twins win four in a row vs. one damn team.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ May 3, 2015 -> 07:17 PM) Does anyone else notice that Dick Allen has gone silent? I think he finally realizes that no BS excuses can be made for this sorry team. I'm all for supporting Ventura or anyone else, but enough is enough already. Sox have bad roster but this is ridiculous. Their road performance is historically bad.

If the Sox aren't gonna fire Ventura they need to do what the Royals did the year before they won the division. Royals put George Brett in the dugout a month; we need to beg Big Frank to be in the dugout a month. Or Bo Jackson. Bo might even be better. Just do it, White Sox. The status quo is ridiculous. We are 2-10 on the road this year and it's only going to get WAY WORSE. Minnesota has a s*** team, complete s*** and we're about to go 0-4 in Minnie vs. them.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ May 3, 2015 -> 04:37 AM) If they became sellers I think that erodes the fan base even more. What good would getting another team's prospects when this organization doesn't seem to be good at developing baseball players. My point is the Twins finish ahead of us and are .500. If the Sox were .500 after years of this s***, people would come. I will tell you this. As smart as Hahn is, my being a GM would have the Sox in much better shape cause I'd have acquired Billy Butler and Torii Hunter who are better than LaRoche/Melky.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 3, 2015 -> 05:28 AM) The hitting coach is former Athletic, Todd Steverson. He was widely praised last year. It's not a coaching thing with this quad I think -- I think it's a leadership void mostly. The locker room has zero strong personalities and they lack leadership from the manager. Gardenhire would work fine the more I think about it. Just get someone that's won a little in here and see what happens. Nobody can look at Robin and think "this a guy that has managed some big games". At least Gardenhire has done that. For all the losing at the end Gardenhire is .507 for his career. FWIW, that's miles ahead of Robin. Somebody pointed out the Sox road win percentage is something like .333 in a significant amount of games. Team loses series after series and yes we were told in the offseason this team should contend for playoffs. Robin said it; Hahn said it; everybody said it. No way Robin's gonna get axed this early but like I said, he should be fired if Minnie completes the sweep Sunday. That's flat out sickening and embarrassing. All the money paid to these guys and they can't beat Minnie one of four?

I have one question to ask everybody and I would love a SERIOUS answer. Sox are 7 games out. IF and I say IF Minnie completes the sweep tomorrow, what harm would it be to fire Robin?? Sox can afford the salary even though I'm sure it would be an annoyance to the payroll people to have to pay Robin to go away. But seriously ... the season is all but over except for the wild card and school is still in session. Tell me please ... what harm would it be to axe Robin?? As far as replacements, this is my suggestion but I can understand if management won't do it. This is a perfect chance to give Ozzie a tryout. He's interim coach the rest of the year. We pay him $50,000. That's it, with incentives if we win the wild card. Ozzie would do it for $25,000. We get to see if Ozzie behaves. If he does anything controversial we move on. Then at season's end, if he's changed he gets a 1 year deal for next year; if he's the same Oz we move on to Gardenhire/LaRussa or Leyland. If you don't like my second part of this ignore it and at least answer my first part. What would it hurt firing Robin tomorrow if we go 0-4. I mean, Sox fans will always love Robin, etc. We know he's had s*** to work with compared to Ozzeroo. But an 0-4 to one of the worst teams in baseball, cmon. This is Chicago and it's happening too often.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 2, 2015 -> 11:30 PM) You just gotta tip your cap there's great clubs in this division like the Twins. Hard to win up there in the Metrodome. Wait, what year is it? This is like the old days. The sox are officially out of the division chase on May 2. They ain't going to make up 7 games on Detroit/KC. Anybody who thinks it's possible with this team's performance against Central teams head to head is dreaming.

Notice how we never blame the hitting coach now that the hated Walker is gone? I don't even know who our hitting coach is to tell you the truth. It's all cliche. This current hitting coach should be getting roasted over the coals as much as Walker was.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 2, 2015 -> 09:36 PM) Hahn could have had half a dozen gm jobs. If he doesn't have final say he should move on. The laroche move especially and the shark trade reek of kW meddling. LA Roche is the most kW free agent ever. LaRoche reminds me of Swisher. Trade him as soon as trade season begins with the rest of last year's acquisitions. Time to stockpile some talent, baby.

What is so hard about going on the road and beating Minnesota a game or two? Robin definitely could be fired after tomorrow's loss and nobody would see it as an over-reaction. Just for comedy sake I'd love to see Coop get the rest of the season then we hire Gardy or Leyland this offseason to work with our totally revamped team.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 2, 2015 -> 09:30 PM) There's no trade market the first week of May. Robertson being traded...means they're rebuilding again, which they cannot afford to do. And the return (die to his salary) wont be great unless there are 2-3 closers from contending teams all down simultaneously. Alexei looks older. LaRoche and Cabrera cant be moved, and Danks will just be salary relief. If you want to watch Beckham, Sanchez, Micah and Trayce Thompson play everyday....but you will be back to 2007 again. I think they can afford to rebuild. s***, these veteran laden teams can't sniff .500. The Twins are .500. Fans will still come to see Abreu and the team will probably be better anyway during rebuilding than it is now.

What organization would desperately want Shark that we could rob blind in return? It's time to start planning some big-time trades and Hahn has to win all of them.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2015 -> 09:27 PM) Alexei to the Padres makes a lot of sense if this continues for another month Definitely.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2015 -> 09:25 PM) They built a team with speed that is bad at stealing bases. Due to the need for speed, they neglected getting enough power in the lineup. Way too much reliance on Avi showing power development. The team speed is still putrid on the whole. It's still mostly a station to station team. Couple guys can run a bit.

QUOTE (flavum @ May 2, 2015 -> 09:22 PM) He'll take blame because that's what GMs do. But I still like him and think he's a smart GM. That said, he needs a new manager, and his team president and owner need to allow him to do that. Only way out of this mess. Fire Robin and the entire staff after the season ... after all the guys we acquired in last year's trades are shipped during the season. Start planning the firesale now and get some amazing baseball players for Melky, Robertson, LaRoche, Duke, Danks, Lexi. We have some pieces contenders will want. Go young and go for talent.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 2, 2015 -> 09:17 PM) Take all 4 ..........................Minn guys cannot believe how bad Sox are. It's hard to be swept in a four-game series, really hard. QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ May 2, 2015 -> 09:17 PM) Overreacting to Rodon I mean I think it's reasonable to suggest he had lousy stuff today judging by the sound of bat hitting ball and he should be stretching out in the minors not in some ridiculous midding inning relief role in the big leagues.

The Twins are .500 and the Sox five under. Laughable. The Twins are 8-4 at home. With that piece of crap team. But the Sox got to stretch out Rodon a bit today ... what a sick joke of an organization. No urgency. Just loss after loss. p.s. I wouldn't have pinch hit Flowers for Shuck when he had two hits, matchups be darned. p.s.s. The Sox bench sucks.

Time to suck it up and win a ballgame or meekly go eat the postgame spread down 0-3 to the ridiculously bad, small market Minnesota Twins team.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 2, 2015 -> 09:04 PM) How long have you been a Sox fan? 6 and 6.5 gb with the way they're playing now (assuming Prices beats KC) is borderline nuclear meltdown time. Sure, there's 1983. I don't even follow the standings now. Until Robin gets the boot I'm just watching games for the sake of watching Sox games. Team is going nowhere. Not saying a Robin switch will make it a contender, either. Only thing lights out awesome now is bullpen. Everything else is among the worst in baseball.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ May 2, 2015 -> 09:00 PM) So do people think Rodon will get the spot start when our guys serve theur suspensions? I think it will be Carroll personally. Rodon I think goes back down to get stretched out when Guerra and Albers are back. Lots of overreaction in this thread. Overreaction how? This team was not built this offseason to "possibly" lose 3 in a row on the road to the Twins.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2015 -> 08:57 PM) Rodon's stuff is sensational, it's his command that's bad Sox are three outs from total embarrassment territory. Maybe they can rally. Twins could be going for a 4-game sweep tomorrow. Hope Shark turns over the food table in locker room. I don't think guys do that anymore though in this day and age.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 2, 2015 -> 08:55 PM) They don't give you runs on fouls balls. But if it gives you something to b**** about...... My last comment on the matter: His fastball isn't exploding today and he had nothing nasty working. That last pitch he threw that Kd the batter was close to nasty.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 2, 2015 -> 08:52 PM) He hasn't given up any runs. Gave up a couple inherited, one on a soft liner to RF, another on a SF. That one pitch was blasted into oblivion a half inch from the foul line. Whatever. I see lousy stuff for the most part today at least from Rodon.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 2, 2015 -> 08:45 PM) He is throwing 94-98 with an 89-91 slider. Stuff isn't his problem. It is pretty spectacular. The Twins must have the greatest hitters in the world then, cause they are having no problems squaring up and teeing off. I know the eye test doesn't matter, but the eye test tells me he's got pedestrian stuff today.