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The legitimacy is a good point actually and the Donovan hire signaled that as well, but it remains to be seen if it attracts any players worth a damn. The trades they made has hamstrung us and even if I'm a fan of DeMar, I think it was a mistake to tie up that much money (and get rid of a first round draft pick) in a guy with his playstyle...ie a ballhog that doesn't mesh with the other ballhog commanding maximum money or the $20mil player who also needs the ball to be effective. The other ballhog, Lavine, could be the perfect off-ball shooting guard, Rip Hamilton or Ray Allen on steroids, but either the coach doesn't want him to do that or he doesn't listen to the coach. The new front office mortgaged the future to get 'win now' guys who simply weren't good enough or fit together well. Poor roster construction and they gave away a ton of first round picks to achieve less than GarPax. The Lauri trade and betting on Pat Williams was the biggest boneheaded move, Lauri's success really did not come out of no where, he showed he had this ability his first season before he was relegated by Billy to spot-up three point shooter. At least Boylen was smart enough to let him get rebounds and carry the ball up the floor. We gave up an all-star starter at our weakest position for a pick that will probably convey as two second round picks (correct me if I'm wrong about this but I think that's how the lottery protection was structured). Anyway, bball rant over. As I said, the point about legitimacy is a good one (both to players and fans) if the Sox hire a reputable executive from outside the organization (and hopefully division). I would just be cautious that the grass is always greener. Maybe Getz would actually be good at the job, how should I know?

honestly, I don't believe it. I bet the 'sources' are people who don't really know but are making an educated guess based on what they know about Reinsdorf and have whatever credentials needed to function as a source so that Morosi can cook up a tweet and keep his job a little longer. I think the shakeup that happened to the Bulls a few years ago is the best predictor of how this front office search will go. If you don't follow the NBA, the Bulls similarly had a two-headed President/GM monster making decisions and stepping on each other's shoes that was left in charge way too long. Eventually, they were fired (Paxson 'demoted' to consultant) and they hired an up-and-coming executive from a team outside the conference and let him hire a GM to handle day-to-day stuff. Maybe that was a Michael Reinsdorf decision and Jerry is still stuck in his ways (or sees how going outside the org actually made the Bulls worse off...they are indeed a worse team under the new administration with no immediate path to success), but I believe more so that they will actually take a look at executives in other orgs. Doesn't mean they won't hire Getz, I just don't believe all these tweets that seem frankly derivative of the original Nightengale report (ie whatever Reinsdorf wants the public to think).

How does someone even sneak a gun into the ballpark? They check inside even the tiniest purse. They opened up my cigarette pack to see if I was smuggling something in there. spray bullet from the outside sounds hard to imagine but I know I would’ve noticed a gun shot 3 sections away. People nearby wouldn’t have just gone about their business complaining about how bad Dylan cease is. It does sound hard to believe but there are shootings in the area often enough and it doesn’t strike me as surprising that some dumbass kids might’ve been firing strays at the stadium from wentworth. It’s hidden enough right there between the park and the freeway, you’re not doing that on 35th with all the police activity. I also can’t believe somebody snuck a gun into the ballpark. I also don’t know how a bullet could travel that far and not hit something on the concourse before it reached people. Very fascinating story altogether, doesn’t change my opinion of going to sox games but I’m sure it makes people feel more emboldened that a baseball team can’t be on the south side

It’s hard to say because I would have left if I had known, but I imagine a “crush” situation could have been a lot deadlier. I don’t know what information the staff or ballpark police had, but I guess the right course of action was taken honestly. I can assure there was no parkwide panic.

so weird, man. I assumed it might've happened at the very end of the game, we left a little early. But yeah we were right next to the bleachers in section 158 the whole time, did not notice a thing.

when was this? I was sitting three sections over and heard no gunshots or any commotion.

eloy hit a home run to us.....right when we got up to use the restroom. naturally. still a fun game except I never noticed how fat every white sox fan is. i doubt cubs fans are any better. i think everyone in chicago is just obese. sadder than losing to the a's.

for some reason I paid to attend tonight's game. sitting in left field in hopes that Luis Robert will hit a ball to me

yeah sure

he's out. what the f*** is that slide

lmao of course Yaz is the pinch hitter. Sosa is better.

Elvis has a .840 OPS over the last month. what

in fairness, playing professional baseball seems like a much better qualification than whatever Rick Hahn's 'credentials' were. I have no opinion on whether or not he's qualified to do the job, but I'd prefer someone from outside the organization...and outside the division.

I feel sorry that his managerial career has been ruined before it got a chance to start. Maybe he didn't deserve it in the first place, KC sure didn't think so.

I was LOLing at this too, but they have a day off before they go to KC and Munoz himself has had a couple days off, I doubt they're hurting for pitchers. Why not bring him in to pitch to Robert who could potentially extend the game?

4.5 more years of benny bombs ?

Yes this is a good point and I can't dispute a person like that would think this way. I also imagine a person like that would have such a giant ego that they'd die happy knowing they owned two professional teams in an internationally important city...and it would be a dent in that ego or 'legacy' to sell the team at its lowest point. He's got enough years left for one more rebuild.

This is what I was just thinking and came into this thread to post...but a few extra thoughts. -I'm not wholly convinced Reinsdorf wants to sell. He's a 90-year-old billionaire, what does he have to gain by selling the team? What does he need a little bit of extra money for? I would imagine a dinosaur like that probably values the idea of a 'fantasy', of owning a professional baseball team, more than he does a little extra spending money. What's he going to use it for? I think if this asset is being sold, it's by his kids after he dies. -If this team is sold, there's a very good likelihood the team is leaving Chicago, at the very least the city limits. This is a very real possibility regardless, but it would take a stroke of luck for someone to buy the team and be loyal to the city. Because it sure isn't a good business beyond revenue sharing that could be had in any other market. That dumbass that owns the Phoenix Suns and lives on the north shore is what some fans are dreaming for, that some benevolent billionaire will buy the team and only care about winning in Chicago, but that's not a reasonable possibility.

Every time I tab back to this game, Clev is walking a guy on a 3-2 count with a lousy pitch. No control tonight and not throwing fastballs except the first pitch which I think was the hardest he's thrown all year.

why did vaughn just do that ok so he was out, still, run the ball the 3 feet.

Chief "Don't Call Me Vlad" Sosa looks a lot better this callup.

Something about Robert and Eloy getting on base then Robert being driven home by Vaughn is satisfying and gives me some optimism for the future in light of the ' cautiously good' news.

Wow. would've thought they'd wait until the offseason and would've thought KW sticks around.

And the Sox are about as close in attendance to the A’s than they are to the Cubs whereas the A’s have been purposefully trying to torpedo attendance for about a decade. Obviously there’s interest there for a baseball team as much as there is for a second Chicago team. And more real estate development potential which is a necessity now when it comes to building a new stadium. I just don’t think Chicago’s position within the nation is as strong as it used to be and it’s hard to justify two teams. I think the only way the Sox stay is if there really is some “ballpark district” kind of development opportunity and it won’t be around 35th and shields. My money is on “bronzeville” or around the United center.

I'm talking about in the middle of the night, grandpa