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Too late. @Dick Allen already did.

I have no clue what you are saying about me regarding the Crochet trade. Go back to the trade thread — I called it a good return immediately when it happened. But good lord, the dude was trading a starter that turned into an ace and making next to nothing. The Bummer, Santos, and Fletcher trades were reasonable? I disagree, as Fletcher is terrible, but regardless, reasonable still isn’t good. I asked for your list of Getz’s good trades. You cited one good trade that he made in Crochet and then rambled some more BS about Maldonado. Even I managed to cite three.

Guys not working out (especially position players) like Fletcher, Vargas, etc., means that the Sox still have no clue how to scout players. It’s great that they can look at a top ten prospect list for the Red Sox and know who to ask for in return for Crochet but they need to be able to identify talent better than they do.

I think that would make sense, but he’s 34 and can’t hit anymore. We’ll see if they cut him. The Angels still owe Rendon $76 million — $38 million in each of 2025 and 2026. Absolutely brutal.

When did I ever say that about Fajardo and Combs? I just argued that with where the Sox are currently at (i.e., terrible), trading any young prospects for old relievers is stupid. And Getz has like three good trades — Crochet, DeJong, and Grossman. Go figure, even Getz was able to get a good return for a cheap starter with control that magically turned into an ace! Any GM could have done that. The rest of his moves are mediocre to bad. He ruined his Fedde acquisition by trading him for Vargas. What is your list of all of Getz’s great trades?

Exactly. DeLoach was cut by Getz in under a year since he was acquired and just passed through waivers unclaimed and was outrighted to Charlotte. But let’s all be excited that the Sox managed to retain such a talent. 🤣 DeLoach, Wilson… just more Getz fails.

Yeah, he’s more like a fourth outfielder at best.

There’s always a risk to the idea of acquiring another flippable asset rather than just getting an additional prospect. Injury and poor performance from the supposedly flippable asset. We got both from Wilson.

Point taken. 🤣 https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2022/3/23/22993020/lucas-giolito-voices-frustration-over-arbitration-with-white-sox

No worries, the main part of the Sox RF platoon is 34.

It will be interesting to see what the Padres get for Cease with a year less of control if they decide to deal him this offseason.

You excited about this move? The sad thing is he might be able to outproduce the Sox RF platoon.

I said last week that the Santos trade looks pretty bad now. Watching Berroa walk the world will not be fun.

I’m pretty sure he meant that the Padres will get more for Cease trading him away than what Getz got, not that the Padres would claim Wilson off waivers.

Exactly. Wilson’s arm must be shredded, and they know it. No team, not even Jerry’s, would be that cheap over $150K.

Huh? Getz cut the guy to sign two mediocre veteran fourth outfielders for a combined $4 million in what will be another losing season, even though the team would have had plenty of at bats to give to DeLoach. It sure appears that even Getz whom acquired DeLoach doesn’t think he was worth a roster spot while making the minimum. It’s funny that you get mildly excited that the Sox manage to retain these guys. It literally means that no other team wants them even though they are basically free other than taking up a 40-man roster spot. Just like if Steven Wilson clears waivers, this means that no other team wants these sorry ass bums even though they make under a million. It really doesn’t matter what you think. These are called bad acquisitions by a bad GM whom whiffed once again on part of his trade returns. It’s as simple as that.

I can’t wait to see how the handful of Getz defenders try to justify this garbage…

Scholtens made $747,250 last season. So either Getz thinks Scholtens is more worthy of a roster spot than Wilson, or he is admitting that acquiring Wilson was a bust. No GM makes a move like this over $200K. Logic was tossed out the window on this one.

What GM could risk losing a 31-year old reliever who put up these stats? Scholtens is the very definition of a jizz mopper. Look at these numbers and now imagine what Getz thinks of Wilson… 85 IP 1-9 Record 5.29 ERA 1.529 WHIP 100 Hits 15 HR 58 K 30 BB

But why? Scholtens is turning 31 and he’s bad. He is obvious DFA material. Getz cutting Wilson while retaining Scholtens is a massive admission of failure in that Cease trade. Brutal.

So if the Cease trade goes completely south, as it looks like it may be headed, what does Getz have on his resume now? A couple good very minor trades and potentially the Crochet trade? All of his other trades have been crap.

Good point. You should also factor in what a terribly cheap franchise should do in this situation if there is any question about Montgomery’s MLB readiness. It’s an easy decision.

Exactly. Even if you get a fluke first half from Drury, he isn’t netting you much in a trade. This just takes at bats away from a young guy. Pointless. This is just more of Kenny and Hahn and hoping for lightning in a bottle from a scrub veteran. At least they cost nothing, but it’s embarrassing at this point.