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But now you are sweating a 1B/DH that went to the Cubs for much less then Cease? If Busch doesn’t hit for the Cubs in the majors almost immediately, he’s done. He can’t play defense. How does Busch have anything to do with Colson Montgomery playing either SS or 3B? Busch couldn’t play either of those positions. But regardless of this reasoning, Busch is the guy you wanted in return for Cease, when the Sox aren’t going to be ready to compete for anything in the next couple years at the very least?

Yes, we should throw a stupidly massive contract (one which Reinsdorf has never gotten close to) at an up and down bat that still won’t make the Sox a competitor, just to show up Cubs fans. He would be another bloated Moncada contract on a loser of a team. How long did it take you to come up with this amazing idea?

Thank you. This is the Cubs effect. Busch is better now that the Cubs acquired him. ?

I’d only have considered it if Pages was included.

From drinking out of puddles in Cuba to a $2.7 million dollar signing bonus from the Sox. Poor guy.

Busch is 26 years old and likely a 1B/DH who I doubt Getz was ever truly interested in due to his complete and utter lack of a glove. The dude would likely be close to 30 years old by the time the Sox have a competitive team. There’s no way he should be one of the top returns in a Cease trade. The Cubs got him for an unproven 19 year old Jackson Ferris that may not amount to anything, not a legitimate starter in Cease, whether you think he’s an ace or a #3 starter.

I believe this was posted already but would Orioles fans be okay with Paxton or Ryu as your big offseason starter acquisition? One guy is always injured and the other just came back from TJ surgery.

Well, we know that the owner in this case is neutering his GM. Hahn was obviously not the best GM but it was also obvious he wanted to do more than Jerry let him.

Agreed, and this is why I don’t agree with holding onto Cease. To me, the risk outweighs the potential for an improved return.

Definitely. He would be the ultimate comeback player of the year / trade bait option at the deadline and a low salary for one year would make him all the more desirable. I think the Sox are done with him though.

Sure, it’s his way or the highway. But he will be hurting his own attendance and Sox fans can’t wait until he is gone. Not that it matters, because he earns money regardless.

I respect this answer. Thank you.

Which part was I wrong about? Getz was given the GM job/promotion without even an interview. Reinsdorf said this in his press conference when he announced the firings of Hahn and Kenny and this GM change. Reinsdorf said that “he knew Getz” so he didn’t even need to interview him or any other candidate for the job. These are facts. Do you agree with this type of hiring for such an important position for your favorite team? How many other MLB teams would have hired Getz as their GM? Please provide a direct answer to these questions without another vague post like this one.

You are probably right that’s he’s too good to be a secondary piece but I’m just not interested in Westburg as the headline piece in a Cease trade. i guess the question is — do you think Westburg could stick at SS and is his bat legit? I don’t want a righty 2B as the primary return. The Sox should be able to produce one of those, dammit.

I would be surprised if Anderson goes that low but I guess it’s possible. I still think the Sox are done with him completely either way. Maybe if he’s over the very public baby momma drama, he can have a productive bounceback season in 2024.

History and facts actually support your so-called Negative Nellies’ side of things. Only hope and opinion supports your Positive Pollies’ side.

You are skipping over a huge part of the circumstances that Getz got hired within, that upset many Sox fans. The fact that Getz was in a key role before he was promoted to GM and may have contributed to the decline of the Sox, just like Hahn and Kenny. And also that Reinsdorf basically gifted Getz the promotion to GM without interviewing any other candidates, not even one. Reinsdorf even admitted in his press conference that he didn’t interview Getz for the role! So I guess fans should be more upset at Reinsdorf than Getz but the way in which Getz got the GM promotion was quite an embarrassment and I’m not surprised fans are assessing each and every one of Getz’s moves with such a keen and critical eye. But it is ironic that you said, “if anyone on this site was given the GM job” since it was essentially “given” to Getz.

Used to love when Hawk would rock it.

Thanks for sharing. The first half of the Ortiz section could’ve been written by Sox fans here with the second half written by Orioles fans. ? If these guys aren’t traded this offseason, they could be used as trade bait at the deadline. But what’s the rush with Edwin Arroyo? Sure, he’s blocked but he’s only 20 years old. Not really comparable to the other guys that are already around 25, since the article is celebrating the trade of an older blocked prospect in Michael Busch to the Cubs. Actually, Everson Pereira is also only 22, but he is definitely blocked and probably will be blocked going forward with the Yankees OF prospects.

Why do you do this strange side-talking to other posters that you know agree with you, rather than engaging directly with the poster you are talking about (@Balta1701)? I have not seen @Balta1701 make any verbal assaults and god forbid he actually uses stats and analysis to justify his points of view rather than simply saying it’s his own opinion that everything the Sox do is great so no one can disagree with him.

Sports radio makes a living discussing these Sox topics. I’m not sure why you would expect the discussion on a Sox message board to be much different. Not everyone is super positive like you considering the past 20 years of Sox history. If you can’t be honest about the negatives, then you are basically just sticking your head in the sand and ignoring things.

Our fearless leader Grifol promised to clean all of that up last year. Surely he will get the job done this year.

Hahn actually hit on one of his few expensive relievers. Golf claps for Rick. But keep pretending like there is no difference in signing a Machado or Harper and signing a Graveman.

If the last 20 years of results from this Reinsdorf-owned team gives you any hope, more power to you. https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/index.shtml

Yeah, he was actually good. It’s too bad the trade return for him looks so bad now. They couldn’t even trust Korey Lee to be a backup catcher apparently.