Everything posted by 77 Hitmen
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Being bad doesn't = Rebuilding
I would think the owners of the Cubs' division rivals would object to the Sox being contracted or moving. The Ricketts have already turned the Cubs into a financial juggernaut in a division full of smaller market teams. And this is with a quarter or a third of Chicagoland being Sox fans and hating the Cubs. Imagine how much more powerful the Cubs would be if they had the allegiance of essentially ALL of Chicagoland? Sure, Sox fans would never root for the Cubs if the Sox went away, but that'll change as we die off and a new generation grows up with only the Cubs. It didn't take long for the Bears to own all of Chicago after the Cardinals left except for a few old timer diehards.
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“The 78” + "The Railyard" = the future of the Sox and Fire
The Fire's plan has nothing but surface lots on the part of the 78 that is south of the proposed soccer stadium, which is proposed to be placed between 13th and 14th St. Perhaps that's to keep the door open for the Sox for now. That doesn't mean the Sox WILL move there, but it does still appear to be an option for them if the new owners want to pay for a stadium there. And before anyone screams "Where Will People Park??!!", there is still space for parking garages no matter what is built there. No matter what happens, 10+ acres of surface lots doesn't seem to be an ideal use for such prime real estate in the heart of Chicago.
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Getting tired of the "give the ball to a child" meme
I couldn't tell from the video, but he gave the HR ball to a kid. https://www.si.com/mlb/mariners/news/cal-raleigh-mariners-reward-fan-who-gave-60th-home-run-ball-to-kid
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Being bad doesn't = Rebuilding
Typical White Sox luck. 😠 On the other hand, they did have the #4 and #3 picks in 2018-19 and we all know how that turned out.
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Being bad doesn't = Rebuilding
I do miss those times. Since 2005, even when the team is good, they really seemed like underachievers. In the 3 seasons they made the playoffs since 2005: 2008: Had a 6 game lead in June and a 2.5 game lead on Sept. 21, choked it away and needed the Blackout Game to salvage the division title. 2020: Had a 3 game lead with 8 games remaining and blew it and had to settle for a wild card. 2021: Played only slightly above .500 in the 2nd half and looked like the weakest of the 10 playoff teams heading into the post-season.
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Being bad doesn't = Rebuilding
Top 5 ballpark experiences in MLB compared to experiences at other ballparks then those franchises are fielding a winning team? Sure, winning is fun and exciting no matter where you are and I would have an absolute blast at the ballpark if the Sox were pennant-bound, but I have a really hard time believing the experience at Rate Field is anywhere near top 5 in baseball. IMO, when the A's and Rays finally open their new ballparks, many people outside the Sox fan base will rank the Rate Field ballpark experience around 28 or 29th. I know saying this will anger some Sox fans, but it's the cold, hard truth.
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Being bad doesn't = Rebuilding
"Hey, losing 100+ games for several seasons worked for the Astros, **THEREFORE** it could very well work for the Sox" is not exactly a good game plan for a professional baseball organization. To your last point, the new owners when they (eventually) take over will have their work cut out for them. You know what's worse than having a bunch of angry fans? A bunch of apathetic fans, and that's where the Sox are right now. People like to think there's this vast army of Sox fans sitting at home ready to come back in droves and pack Rate Field night after night as soon as they return to playoff contention. I don't think that's quite the case. It's going to take more than just a few wild card and perhaps even AL Central titles followed by early playoff exits to really change the trajectory of the Sox market share in Chicagoland.
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Fire Chris Getz
Don't you mean "still in genuine progress"?
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Fire Chris Getz
how about "the money will be spent"?
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Fire Chris Getz
you beat me to it.
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Fire Chris Getz
Plus, he wasn't very successful in this previous job in this organization. Classic example of failing upwards - that's the Reinsdorf way.
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“The 78” + "The Railyard" = the future of the Sox and Fire
MLB owners have approved the sale of the Rays for $1.7B. An investor in the incoming ownership group is someone who was part of the Orlando Dreamers MLB expansion/relocation effort. The segment below discusses how this sale likely paves the way for a new stadium and entertainment district for the Rays somewhere on the Tampa side of the metro area. They also bring up an interesting point about possible future high-speed rail (Brightline) link to Orlando. Two of the main issues discussed with the current owner: he won't invest in payroll to keep/bring in high quality players and he won't commit enough private money to a new stadium. Hmmmm......sounds familiar. Where have I heard that before?
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2025 MLB season...catch-all for non-Sox, non AL-Central
Wouldn't he only need 3 to break the AL record? And nobody with higher than 62 HRs is in the HoF and probably won't be anytime soon.
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Fooled us maybe for a little bit.
The biggest progress next season will be that we'll be one year closer to new ownership taking over this team.
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2025 MLB season...catch-all for non-Sox, non AL-Central
Amazing!
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2024: AL Central Thread
Are the Sox a flat gray line that's been at zero % the entire season?
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Most consecutive 100-loss seasons in MLB history
100th loss tonight. It's official: third year in a row with 100+ losses. These incompetent clowns should be ashamed of themselves. South Side, STAND UP!
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Resilient White Sox/AL Central Attendance, somehow up 1.8% YoY for first 21 home dates
The good news is that the Sox seem to have a better attendance FLOOR than a few other teams. I'm thinking of the two Florida teams and the A's in Oakland. Though, I don't know if the Sox numbers are much different than the Tigers when they lost 119 games. I wouldn't go by any attendance numbers from before 1990 and certainly not from the late 60s/early 70s. MLB average attendance was much lower back then - the league-wide average was around 15k/game in the late 1960s, which is about half of the average per game attendance in the last quarter century. https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/misc.shtml
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This season has been “less awful than most”
I get what you mean. I'd say the 2022 season was much more frustrating to watch....and that made the Sox more difficult to watch in a way. This year, I had pretty much zero expectations for this team. That's still completely unacceptable. But I've moved on from frustration and anger in 2022 to resignation and disinterest now. This organization is a total disgrace to let us get to this point where we see up to 104 losses as a big step forward.
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2024: AL Central Thread
You don't have to even go back to July 6. On Sept. 4, the Tigers had an 11 game lead over the Guardians (and 9.5 games up on the Royals). That 11 game lead has totally evaporated in less than 3 weeks. WOW!
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Sun Times says it’s time for the Schrif to move on
As it stands right now, the Sox have the 7th worst winning pct in the franchise's 125 year history. Hardly a "good" team.
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All things LA Dodgers Thread...
The 10th team in MLB history to do so and the first since the Yankees and Mets during the final year at their old stadiums in 2008. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/46337726/dodgers-become-10th-mlb-team-draw-4-million-fans-season
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Robots are officially coming!
Good news, everyone!
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“The 78” + "The Railyard" = the future of the Sox and Fire
There is a massive 100-acre, $4B entertainment district being built within walking distance of Angel Stadium. https://www.anaheim.net/5157/Honda-Center-OC-Vibe This is being built by the owners of the Ducks and will surround the Honda Center. Angels owner Arte Moreno has nothing to do with this project and his previous efforts to develop the parking lots at Angel Stadium failed due to corruption. There are three people standing in the way of Moreno being the worst owner in MLB: John Fisher, Bob Nutting (Pirates), and Jerry Reinsdorf. And yes, the Royals are planning to move to a new stadium. With Missouri and Kansas bidding against each other and the team saying they'll provide $1B in private funding, I think this is very likely to happen. Wherever they land, it'll either be downtown or have significant development surrounding it.
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“The 78” + "The Railyard" = the future of the Sox and Fire
This. The era of MLB owners like JR making a killing on low (or no) rent and parking lot fees is over. Since you mention Boomer era, all Boomers will be senior citizens when the current stadium lease is up. The oldest Gen Xers (as much as I hate to acknowledge this) are turning 60 this year. Even the oldest Millennials start turning 50(!) two years after the Sox lease is up. When looking at how people spend their time and money for sports entertainment these days and going forward, the next owners of this team aren't going to be looking at what worked with Boomers and Gen Xers 30 or 40 years ago.