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I listened to a lot of this on the radio and it sounded pretty good. I thought Condi did a nice job and the person who really attacked her was Barbara Boxer and Condi seemed pretty damn upset at Barbara attacking Condi's morals. Kerry also had a long talk with Condi but it was much more professional, imo. To be honest Boxer's approach is more reason why I think she's god awful, but it won't do me any good cause like Ted Kennedy she'll keep getting elected.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 04:20 PM) It was great to see Mario again this weekend and talk a bit of Sox. It was also great as he walked with us down Michigan Ave in the frigid cold as we pointed out fresh nugs. Ya, with him thinking we were freaks or something

QUOTE(HSC's Biggest Fan @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 02:37 PM) What is his story, I missed it. I love to see greedy people fail. Harrington was originally drafted by either Colorado and San Diego. He demanded a huge bonus and never got it and re-entered the draft. Then he played independent ball wihle waiting for the next draft and his velocity went to crap. He went from mid 90's to mid 80's. I think the Pads drafted him the next year in the 3rd round or so and he still demanded major bucks. Then this year he was picked up by like the Drays or something in double digit round if I recall. IT may of even been his 4th time in the draft (but I think it was the 3rd). I'm too lazy to look the exact details up, but this is what I remember. In short he got drafted high, turned down a couple mill cause he wanted more and now won't get much anything and will never be a major leaguer.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 02:58 PM) Jas, what do you think of weaver as a pitcher?? I have never seen him pitch and am interested on what kind of player he would turn out to be. I don't think Weaver is as good as prior, but I have no doubt Weaver is a 3rd starter at worse in the major leagues. The guy had pinpoint control and good movement. Plus he really knew how to pitch. I'd of definately drafted him because I think he only needs about a year in the minors and could then be pencilled into the fifth spot. In terms of what I think of him, even giving him 10 mill a year for the next 5 years wouldn't turn out too bad simply because I think he spends one year in the minors and the next 4 in the majors meaning your paying him roughly 2 mill a year for 5 seasons, 4 of which are spent in the majors with him developing into a pretty good pitcher and thats a cheap price for a guy like that. Then after that you still have the arb service time and everything. However there is the risk that I'm way wrong on this and Weaver never makes it, but guys with his makeup and control (mixed with quality stuff) SUCEED.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 04:04 PM) Do all guys from Cali have that bad of a fashion sense, or is it just the ex-Hippies? Hey, is this some sort of low blow back at me Heck no, unless your on Sunset Blvd in which case Farmer would of fit right in.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 06:50 AM) No that title would go to Ken Harrelson hands down. If I had to hear how the White Sox tied the Yankees with 242 home runs again, I was going to kick his ass myself. He just kept repeating himself all weekend. I almost wondered if the dude is getting alzheimers or something. Don't worry, next time I come out I'll give the speach for ya. I liked how in the Boyer seminar we had the entire spiel memorized and would keep talking about it. I've been a Hawk fan, but I gotta say, at Soxfest he did nothing but annoy the hell out of me. I was so glad that in Saturdays seminar with Kenny he stopped yapping and bashing Willie and let Ozzie and Kenny do the talking.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 06:25 AM) I thought Ed did a nice job in the Pitchers seminar with Garland, Politte and AJ. Ya, I thought he did good, minus what I term cheap shots at Jerry Manuel and Magglio. I mean Kenny was nothing but classy in regards to the Maggs issue and I just didn't like the way Farmer and even Hawk to a lesser extent try to so pull the company line. Only reason I'll make fun of Farmer a bit is because the guy needs to wear some socks :banghead

QUOTE(KittleWalk83 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 03:59 PM) Thanks for the reply. I really didn't know who Mario was. I didn't need a smartass answer like somebody. I'm sure Mark didn't mean it that way. He's sarcastic by nature. One thing I have check marked to do and actually finished a while back is to get up a history of Soxtalk type deal on this site for everyone thats came and may not know how the site got started and the details. I just got to get it up and edit it. As Alex (heads) will tell you, he had been nagging me for like two years to get it done, luckily he hasn't nagged me to actually put it up, lol. But after he sees this message I'm sure thats the next thing he'll be aiming me every day...the last thing was to get the board update down.

You will not be able to purchase them at all this season unless you buy one of the 9, 18 or 27 game ticket packages. Brooks Boyer fielded a question like this at Fest and basically said it was a marketing concept to increase sales of these packages. They basically use this as leverage. Plus it forces or makes it more likely for Sox fans to purchase these tickets because Cub fans would have to buy a 9 game package just to get one game of Sox-Cubs at US Cell. I thought it makes sense, but it does suck for the diehard Sox fan that can't make it to a few games and would like to get to this one.

QUOTE(KittleWalk83 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 03:33 PM) Who is Mario? Molto...he was the person who started SoxNet with me as his right hand man and then Murcie joining a little later. Eventually Soxtalk sprung out of it.

QUOTE(KittleWalk83 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 03:16 PM) Hey Chisoxfn check you PM. Any pictures of SoxFest been posted online except for the ones on the White Sox site??? Just saw it, working on IT stuff at work so I'll respond when I get home tonight

QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 02:06 PM) Yep.. the calm, cool, and collected Gods you are. Whoops... don't spill that drink..

QUOTE(LDF @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 11:17 AM) damn. btw thanks for the info Thats a key slot because 15 and lower does not give up first round compensation for free agent signings. I think the Sox did lose there 2nd round draft pick for signing El Duque or Hermanson, I forget which, but If I recall we signed one guy that had been offered arbitration.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 10:34 AM) This is where agents like Boras off miss the boat. Weaver's first contract, they are asking for 11mil for what 5-6 years he will be under contract from the team? If Weaver is the next Prior, then you would want him to play as soon as possible so that he can hit free agency earlier, where the real money is. Weaver could go into the draft again, and have this same scenario occur. I mean at that point he would be out almost $4mil. Also, after missing a full season, his stock will start to drop, so whatever he originally might have gotten will go down. I really do not see how it can be in the players best interest to turn down millions and lose an entire year of growth. SB I should add that Weaver has not registered for his classes at Long Beach State which means he will not be able to pitch for them next year, unless of course he's still planning on registering. This is a big mistake by him and his agent. I think at this point they should fold to the pressure, get the 7 or 8 mill guaranteed the Angels are likely offering and then as Badger mentioned if he is so good, he'll hit free agency a year quicker and make up that couple mill difference. I think the Angels plan on playing some serious hardball. Right now its not really a big deal to them or Weaver since he wasn't expected to pitch shortseason after the heavy workload he had in college. But if he's not ready by the start of the season I think you'll see the Angels pretty much say fine, you can't go to college so sit around a year without pitching and see your stock drop. Just think of that knucklehead who kept holding out and holding out and went from being a 3rd overall selection (harrington I think was his name) to not even being a top 5 round selection. Hell, I forget where he went this past year but it was pretty bad considering.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 11:34 AM) Jason, minor league invite does not count vs. the 40 man. Ya, but if he was designated for assignment, then you must place him on the 40 man roster, just like the Sox did when they grabbed Bobby Jenks.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) I can't wait to see the Soxtalk community's reaction to our fresh nugs. They will start to worship us like the gods we are

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 12:24 PM) I would pay to fire the entire management staff at Connie's Pizza. Jesus, 3 hours later we finally get some food. Thats after server Gage grabs the menus to seat ourselves

QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 10:13 AM) Soxfest is like the locker room... what happens there, stays there. I knew there were some questions on whether or not you were to be trusted. Or its like Vegas....If the pics go up, I'm guessing we'll have a funeral to attend and an admin position open

This is great news. Everything said at Soxfest by both Kenny and Posednik seemed to indicate that Luis has damn good stuff.

QUOTE(Cali @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 12:08 PM) I just noticed your Location that's f***ing great. All those letters I wrote to Arte Moreno about how I don't like Orange County really paid off. Dammit I just realized I spelled "Official" wrong in the title. Could someone be so kind as to change that? Don't worry though, I won't let out your secret...aka that the OC is your favorite show on Telivision On a sidenote, I talked to Hangar at Fest this past weekend. He said he's getting things set up way in advance for San Diego when the Sox come into town. Should be a real blast.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 10:01 AM) So what exactly should I tell Matt to do to claim the tickets? Have him email whoever sent him the message and say they aren't in town and if they can claim the tickets via email.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 10:05 AM) Hopefully I'll get some of the pictures we took at the Fest up later this weekend. You can look forward to me and Gage photographed with many of the "fresh nugs" from Chicago, including the Pepsi Girls, the Chicago Bandit girls and other female Sox fans. And of course, pictures of the activities as well. Nice Nice

QUOTE(whitesoxwilkes @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 07:06 PM) I never post here, but just wanted to say Jason, Mark and Brian...great meeting you all! Mike and Steff, pleasure as always. My ass is still creased from sitting on the doorhandle of my poor little car. -Wilkes Addendum: damn my member number is low! Hey Wilkes It was great meeting you do. The whole weekend was a real blast

I never heard anything along those lines. I wish him the best.

Its too soon to predict soemthing along those lines. However, if I were to guess Rogo is most likely going to become trade fodder, especially once Konerko signs an extension to stay with the Sox the next few years. I'd also like to say Rogo's likely going to project as a LF/1st baseman which will give him a little more flexibility. I am a Rogo fan so I think he has a nice swing, good speed (for a big man) and is a great defensive 1st baseman. I've seen him play too little outfield to make a judgement on his defense, especially since the only time I saw him play outfield was right when he started to this past season. If he does continue to show more power development though, it could force the issue. First you got to see what he does in Bham though. Thats going to be the true test.