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The Sox have some guys to build around, they need some guys to finish off and do the little things to win, as well as another starter and some relievers, imo.

Best defenses in football belong to both the Patriots and Ravens. I think the Ravens have the more explosive defense (ie, more turnovers, more points), but New England also has a tremendous, smart offense that reduces turnovers. New England is heavy favorites in my book, but in the NFL anything can happen. And Spiff, you'll love Rosie if he is healthy. He was my favorite defensive player on the Bears, over Urlacher.

Regardless of the fact, this was a good deal by the Yanks. Jose wasn't going to be sucessful with them and they freed up a large portion of salary for the next two years. Now its not like the Yanks need to free up payroll, but its still a wise business move.

I don't think he's going to come just to be showcased. SOmeone is going to give him some decent money for a year and two, just hoping he can turn things around and get his velocity back up. I bet he still gets 3-4 mill a year and in my opinion, I'd rather see the Sox spend 4 mill more and get one of the 8 mill a year starters and then do a little work on the pen and then of course add a leadoff hitter or two.

No more bickering is needed dabears. If people like it, they like it, if they don't they don't. So let whoever views this thread either enjoy the few movies linked in here or not enjoy it. I hope no one is upset at me locking the thread, but I and the other admins are going to do our best to try and put a stop to the petty name calling and what not. I want to see people putting out their opinions, talking about things, debating, doing all the things that makes Soxtalk great....basically everything but personal attacks.

Thats what I was saying when the Bears dealt Booker. All I have to look at is the fact that Eddie Kennison was the Chiefs best reciever (well not named Tony G.) and look what their offense accomplished. Now the Chiefs did have a good vet qb (Green), an amazing back (Priest), and what I would call the best oline in football, but the Bears have a good back in Jones, a good line, and a qb who has the shot to be explosive, plus some decent receivers. Now they are nowhere near where the Chiefs are, but I could say they have the talent.

I don't recall Clement having a history of injuries at all. I think he could and people may feel that way cause he throws so many sliders, but thus far, I know he's had a bum back at times, but he rarely misses starts and what not.

I'm with you. While I love a damn good fastball or just a sick slider, I also realize pitchers can get away with not having that, especially if they have tremendous control and good secondary pitches. They don't need to have one great pitch, but as long as they are confident in mixing up their arsenal and hitting their spots, they will be sucessful. Plus, just becuase a guy throws 97, doesn't mean he can't not have control. Just look at Matt Anderson or anyone else that throws hard and has gotten nothing but shelled. It happens all the time. Major league hitters can hit a hard fastball if the guy can't spot it and has no secondary pitch or can't throw that secondary pitch for a strike. I see why guys with 97 MPH fastball get hyped, because if they could develop pinpoint control or for the rare ones that do, they have a huge advantage for them. If you can spot a 97 MPH fastball and have just a decent offspeed pitch, you will be very good. However, there aren't many people that can even do that.

TLAK, those are some awesome stats.

Now thats a deal I would definately consider, especially if the Sox could find some high value for Konerko. Maybe swap Konerko for a good hitting left handed bat. But in general, what I would do with Crede is swap him for another youngster that could fill a different need for the Sox. I guarantee this much, he'll have value on the market.

Unfortunately, adding another right handed offensive threat shouldn't be a priority, especially when considering pitching. Having that said, I am an absolutely huge Adrian Beltre fan. He's better defensively then Crede. Adrian has a much strong arm and better range as well as the whole offensive thing. However, Boras is his agent and he's going to get roughly 12 mill a year long term (thats my guess, take it for what its worth). I'd rather see the Sox go cheaper in this department, find a good left handed bat for RF, then insert a good obp guy at ss (speed as well) and maybe even do that at 3b or go with Uribe and find a new platoon guy.

I know Rogo has been playing left a bit more oftne as of late. I wonder what will happen when Brice comes back. With the Hogs in the thick of things, I'm guessing Brice will come back and finish up the year. I think if they weren't in the race, his season would probably been over at the end of the olympics.

Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't Francis realistically a similar comparison to McCarthy. Neither of them have a blistering fastball per say, but both have excellent command and some good secondary pitches. I think you could make a case for Francis's secondary pitches being better, but Bmac's curve is pretty damn good and his changeup is getting up there. I'd say you could see Bmac and Francis having similar careers, but some of you all may just think I'm nuts. With that being said, I want to see how he does in AA over the rest of the year and both Francis and Cappellan are ahead of Bmac at this point. Capellan probably has the most upside, but thats cause of his arm.

Well if that were me, I'd tell my dad (not my mom) that my friends and I did some drinking and none of us are going to drive, so is it alright if they stay over, cause I'd rather have them here then in their car (they aren't going to drive). I know my dad wouldn't care one bit, cause I have done that on more then a few ocassions (when I was younger). His thinking is, better this, than the alternative. Plus he knows what he did when he was young and your being responsible. I think your parents would see it this way, plus your being honest with them, which is always a good thing. Now if it were my mom, it be another story, she'd say yes, but then I'm sure I'd get some type of talk or something. Of course I'm a little late to the convo, lol.

Well I thought it was funny. I love seeing people look like morons :lol

Your like me, although I plan on moving out finally next year. Its not too bad, the only s***ty part is, at least with me, if something is going on on campus, it has to be a good party for me to drag my ass there. Otherwise I'd just rather go to a party near my area or what not.

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Good idea, I'll write something up on him. I've been thinking about doing it for some time now. He's got fastball, slider mainly if I recall. I also think he throws a changeup ,but I got it written down, so I'll just check my notes out and then write something up

He may very well be, I was just looking at the stats, I didn't think he would of been any higher. Checked and your right..good call Chris 0-0, 1.69 ERA in 8 games. 10 hits and 11 K's in 10.2 innings. Only one walk.

Dan and I were looking through some stats and well just want to point out that two very good college playesr are down at Kane County right now, Jason Windsor (Cal State Fullerton) and had Huston Street (Texas). Both of them are doing well out of the bullpen, whiel Danny Putman (Stanford) is also there. He's doing a little below average thus far, but always seemed like a decent prospect to me. However he has 7 HR's in like 45 games which isn't too bad. Edit: Street is now in AA Midland.

Yes. Reason Number 1: This Team Does Not need more power. Reason Number 2: This Team does not need someone that could potentially strike out 200 times next year Reason Number 3: This team needs some average/obp guys, Jose is definately not one of them Counterpoint 1: Jose is a lefty...well I don't give a damn cause he doesn't fit into what this team needs and thats a guy or two at the top of the order that can get on base and what not .

There are definately some questions. How will the secondary be, especially without Azumah for the early part of the season. Also, how will the receivers look and will the team stay healthy. I like the teams defensive front, especially the potential of it nad the linebacker core is good, once Urlacher is healthy with the potential to be very good. Our secondary has some good safeties and Grossman is a good looking young qb, however, he will have his problems and I don't know whether he's completely ready to lead a team into the playoffs, but who knows. Thomas Jones has looked really good though. Also, the Bears must clean up their penalty acts. They definately have some talent though, so this could be a fun season and the team should be get better and better as the season progresses. They do have an awfully difficult schedule though.

Well Rex, you should see Sean Tracey at the start of next year down in Bham. He's definately getting stronger as the season goes on. I think a lot of it has to do with him getting more and more used to pitching, since he didn't start until he was in junior college and then after one year there, moved on to UCI where he probably was told some new things about pitching (by Savage), and then into the Sox organization.

Capellan is definately sick, so is Jeff Francis and even Brandon McCarthy. However, those two probably have higher ceilings than McCarthy and they definately have more hype. Still, your right, Capellan should be a legitametly stellar prospect and he's definately climbed through the levels. Whats sick is just one homer allowed, damn.

Pinned it here for now, but I'll move it into the contest board as well. Also, would anyone be interested in setting up a college pickem thing through yahoo or ESPN. I thought someone did, but I don't remember who it was. Then I'll have both in the college football section of the contest area.