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Ya, he threw it out during the BoSox series.

Spidale catches it, but it was hit pretty hard. 4 runs on 3 hits. Bmac has 4 K's through four innings.

They had a 4th inning grand slam which made it 4-1 Mobile Bay. Two outs in the bottom of the 4th right now. Also, they are a Padres affiliate. Josh Barfield hit it. If I recall, Barfield did that against Bmac a couple starts back as well (not the grandslam, but a homer).

Sweeney never was hyped to have pro power at this point. Scouts did feel and still do feel that he projects to have good power, not sure if its plus power, we'll wait and see how he fills out and what not. Hell, from talking with Sweeny, he'll tell you what scouts say, they call him "gap to gap" at this point but feel he will develop home run power. He's just a kid. I truly think offensively he compares to Garret Anderson. The more I look at some of the clips I have of his swing and think of GA's (I see tons of Angel games) and I see similarities.

Not sure on the severity, but he did have surgery. Stumm also had surgery, I know you mentioned you thought he was going to. The Sox expect Stumm back this spring at 100%. I was thinking he may consider retirement or something. From what I know, they expect Wing back at norm. I don't have the email on this computer, so I'm going off memory, I'll look at it tomorrow though and see if there was any specifics on what type of surgery. Off the top of my head I was thinking it was a labrum, but I could be off.

Yep, I left Honel and Wing off mainly cause of injuries. Wing underwent his surgery and should be back by the start of the season and with Honel who knows. The second they are back on the mound and 100%, they jump right back into my top 6 or so. We know I'm a huge Wing fan. And Young, definately legit.

Great stuff Randar

No...Thats a funny picture though

Bryan, I should add, I'm not a big fan of sending Bmac to AFL. I think its a tremendous honor for him, but I don't want to see him make many starts. I think he's had a hell of a season and leave it at that. My hope is the Sox just have a thing or two to work with him (maybe they try teaching him a new pitch, who knows) and AFL is a good time to do that. However, if they want him to throw another 20 innings or so, I'm not for it. Then again, he at least gets a little bit of a rest period for his arm, but I'd get him ready and watch him carefully next year. On the plus side, he's getting a good amount of minor league innings under his belt, which should better prepare him for the workload at the major league level and what not.

Have her tell the rest of the baseball team that he's much better then Cotts, lol.

First off, just want to say welcome aboard Bryan. Want to clarify something on your comments about Rodriguez and Orionny Lopez. Their was a reason they were promoted, these type of promotions happen all around the minors and in every organization. It was an organizational promotion in a sense, but it also deals with the fact that Charlotte is completely and utterly banged up. They went through about a two month period, where they were lucky if they had 2-3 guys available in the pen to pitch in relief. During the final week they needed some spot starts because the Sox called up Munoz, Grilli, and eventually Baj (Wilson Valdez too, but that was when the season ended). Obviously they needed guys to come up and your not going to mess or promote a guy from Bham, considering they are in the playoffs and you don't mess with chemistry. Winston Salem is also in that same position. Remember, these minor league teams want to win and have attendance as well and if you mess around they or any other minor league team wouldn't want to be affiliated with your organization. As far as Honel goes, sure he threw innings, but the Sox were always quite careful with him and you have to look at pitch count as well. He started his career in 2001 with rougly 74 innings. Plus he had pitched in high school. Then in 2002 he pitched roughly 158 innings. Thats definately a jump up, but when you mix in his high school innings it really isn't. The Sox also limited his pitch count and were careful with him. In 2003 he actually pitched less innings at 145. Their is no reason to say the Sox had him throw too many innings. When you look at Bmac, your looking at a juco pitcher. He has had time for his arm to build up. While this is his first full season (instead of short season) he still threw 101 innings last year with Great Falls and 78 innings the year before with Arizona. But he also pitched in games prior to the start of the season in "extended spring training". Sure he's thrown more innings this year, but the Sox once again watch his pitch count. He has great control and hasn't shown signs of arm trouble (knock on wood). No reason to hold a guy back simply because the innings are there. Its all the babying around that creates problems. Shut him down, why don't you ask him if he'd want to be shut down. This is a guy working his way up and doing what it takes to reach the majors. He isn't a bonus baby as you happened to mention and is gonna bust his ass to get their and has done a hell of a job thus far. Now in regards to Sweeney, Idon't have the numbers in front of me, but I can say pretty confidently that he hit over .300 in the 2nd half of the season, and I'd think its more around .320 to .330 in the second half of the season. No one and I mean no one expected for him to hit with power. What he did, as one of the youngest (I think he was the youngest at one point, not sure if he still is) players in high A ball is supurb, imo. The guy did nothing to fall on his face. He also played impressive defense and flashed a good arm making himself the top RF prospect in the Sox organization. Now lets talk about trades. I'll be the first to say the Sox traded away some prospects over the past few years. HOWEVER, I look and see what they gave up compared to how many they gave up. This is off the top of my head Scott Dunn - Called up to Anaheim when rosters expanded Bittner - may have a shot to be a back of the pen reliever (extreme if, although the angels seem to like him) Josh Rupe - probably the best of the bunch..pitching wise John Rauch - nothing...headcase, arm troubles, blah stuff Gary Majewski - I like him, good fastball, good slider, closers mind Mike Morse - doing good down in AA for the Mariners. May have a shot, but despite the numbers has a long long way to go. Francisco Rodriguez (Rangers) - definately has a power arm, but no one and I mean no one would of thunk he'd do what he did this year. Webster - doing solid, may have a shot (very overrated though by BA). Jeremy Reed - has a shot, but I doubt will be a "special player", not many guys are and its not a knock on him. I like Reed a lot. Ring - Don't think much of him Edwin Almonte - Ehhh Joe Valentine - last I looked I thought he was like the 5th starter in cinncy now, converted from a reliever. Still..I doubt he'll amount to that much Tim Hummel - waived and then claimed by Boston (I think). What I'm saying is, I don't see any real LEGIT prospects that would all of a sudden make this system amazing. Remember, every year your also bringing in more prospects, plus Kenny got guys like Cotts, Pacheco (albeit he was a huge dissapointment this year), Ruddy Yan, Edwin Valdez, etc via some trades. Haven't really looked at the top 10, but a quick one off the top of my head would be: - BMac - Brian Anderson - Ryan Sweeney - Josh Fields - Felix Diaz - Gio Gonzalez - Arnie Munoz - Sean Tracey - Tyler Lumsden - Wes Whisler I don't have Borch on there anymore.

Hah, I was just going to email these two articles to see if you saw them

Wow...that was bad.

Isn't that what it says in the article? Or at least thats what it said when I just went their, but you may of edited it. He was hitting .326 on May 1st. He was down to .291 at the end of May. While that wasn't awful, it was definately during May where his struggles began as his wrist injury really started to flare up.

Charlotte Knights: A Year in Review By Andrew Dunn September 7, 2004 FutureSox.com The Charlotte Knights finished off a disappointing year in the International League South finishing 4th in their division with a 68-74 record after going 74-70 the previous season. It was a disruptive season all round for the Knights. Numerous player changes throughout the season made it difficult for the Knights to build any chemistry....MORE

Happy Bday to the two of ya

August 27: LHP Byeong Hak An sent to low A Kannapolis; catcher Cipriano Garcia activated from the DL August 30: SS Pedro Lopez sent to AA Birmingham; SS Andy Gonzalez received from AA Birmingham; P Jose Mieses sent to AAA Charlotte Sept. 4: OF Ricardo received from low A Kannapolis; P Fernan Hernandez received from low A Kannapolis; IF Chris Amador placed on DL Sep 7: OF Tom Brice promoted to AA Birmingham Does that help you out Rex, or do you need a little more info?

Thomas Brice Will Replace Anderson in Bham By Jason Gage September 7, 2004 FutureSox.com The Birmingham Barons playoff run begins on Wednesday when RHP Brandon McCarthy takes the hill against the Mobile Bay Bears (in Mobile Bay). However, the Barons will be without the familiar face of star outfielder Brian Anderson, who was placed on the disabled list on September 1st and is out for the season...MORE

Oh, I think I have the dates for the DL and what not. I have a list of their roster moves as well. Let me tell ya that in a sec. Just putting up an article on Anderson/Brice

He is definately out for the season...the hernia thing is not yet their official announcemnt, but that could very well be the problem. Rex is usually dead on

Posted it in the other thread, but figured its easier to find in a seperate thread. 25 Man Roster: Pitchers: Fabio Castro Brad Murray Jose Espinal Fernando Hernandez Ehren Wasserman Dwayne Pollock Sean Tracey Tyler Lumsden Brian Miller Kenny Ray Wes Whisler Paulino Reynoso Catchers: Wally Rosa Cipriano Garcia Gustavo Molina Infielders: Tommy Nicholson Josh Fields Andy Gonzalez Josh Shafer Casey Rogowski Brian Becker Outfielders: Darren Blakely Ricardo Nanita Ryan Sweeney Peanut Williams (he is a player/coach)

25 Man Roster: Pitchers: Fabio Castro Brad Murray Jose Espinal Fernando Hernandez Ehren Wasserman Dwayne Pollock Sean Tracey Tyler Lumsden Brian Miller Kenny Ray Wes Whisler Paulino Reynoso Catchers: Wally Rosa Cipriano Garcia Gustavo Molina Infielders: Tommy Nicholson Josh Fields Andy Gonzalez Josh Shafer Casey Rogowski Brian Becker Outfielders: Darren Blakely Ricardo Nanita Ryan Sweeney Peanut Williams (he is a player/coach)

At this point, I think he's replacing Anderson on the roster, but I'm waiting for verification.

Rex, I got the answer, also want to note that Brice was sent up to WS today. I don't have time to type in all the names cause I'm running a little late for a meeting. Once I get back, I'll post up the roster