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QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 5, 2018 -> 08:05 AM) https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/2/5/1697...a-max-contracts A great read on how the nba could see the same downward pressures the MLB is seeing now very soon. And this could mean very good things for bulls if they got their core right, though have to say I'm starting to gulp at giving lavine a max. Lavine is getting 15-20 and the 20 is at best. Not enough money on the open market to drive up a contract bigger than that, imo. I think it will likely be somewhere in between but I could see it as low as $15. He’s going to be an RFA and Bulls are going to let him find a market. Only team I could see make a crazy bid is the Lakers and I doubt they will (cause they ultimately know Lavine is staying with the Bulls).

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 08:34 AM) John Paxson basically confirmed on 670 this morning that they won't be free agent players this offseason. They are taking their time with this rebuild. To be honest, I think Paxson knows that there is zero upside in him saying they are going to go aggressive at 2018. I think he recognizes there could be some things that open up, but the smartest thing for him and Gar to do is keep fans patient and delay expectations. If everyone thinks we are all in on 2018 and fail, there is a different perception than, we are going to be passive in 2018 and continue to collect young assets and focus on 2019. I am very pleased with how the rebuild is going thus far. That said, lots of risk remains.

We better just get it this year and be done.

QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 05:11 PM) My understanding of the situation is that is correct Technically we can play in 2018 and would be in a very advantageous space (we are one of 4 teams to have cap space and us and the Hawks are the two teams not expected to use it...at least not currently). That means we could really go aggressive, but with Cousins injury the list of attractive free agents (outside of George & James..presuming they opt out) is just not that large. The fact that there won't be a lot of money bidding does have an advantage in the sense that it means we shouldn't have parties driving up the price on Lavine (who is going to be an interesting case since he's coming back from injury, hasn't necessarily excelled, etc). Everything so premature since he's played so few games, but if this were two years ago he'd be staring at a guaranteed max type contract and now we are probably looking at something in the 15M range (maybe as high as 20M per but I think it falls closer to 15 give or take). 2019 is going to be the year...young core has time to grow, we get another probable lottery pick next year to go with the two picks in this upcoming draft and then we make a major run at what is on paper a very strong FA group. There will be a few more teams flush with cap space so competition will be greater...most notably the Clippers who in shedding Griffin has gone all in on 2019 free agency. Will be interesting to see what happens but to me the wild card is Anthony Davis and what happens with him this off-season. I think there is a shot he is out there and if he is, I think we make a very aggressive play to get him and than from there would pivot into making a heavy push at a Lebron or Paul George to join the young core. Outside of that type of thing happening, I think we'll likely be relatively quiet.

QUOTE (Quin @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 04:12 PM) Knicks willing to include their first to shed Noah. Asik + Nelson for Noah? Or RoLo? Or just the TPE straight up? The problem with Noah (or Deng) for that matter is that there contracts aren't just next year but the year after and we need to have cap space for 2019. While I don't think our strategy is to spend big in 2018...I do think our strategy is to spend big in 2019 and with that we can't take on someone like Noah (even if we get a pick).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:35 PM) One other note - if you want to be able to have a shot at "2 max deals" this offseason, you pretty much have to move Lopez. The Bulls just added Asik...I really don't think their plan is to go big in free agency this off-season.

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 12:50 PM) He hurts the tank. The biggest reason to trade him is to stockpile losses I don't agree with that logic. Moving Niko already assists in those efforts. Having strong veterans who help young players develop, learn how to win and grow and strive in this league, are very valuable. I'll miss Niko because I do think he's finally emerged as a good player but I'm glad we got a real asset for him. Albeit, odds are the player we get with the pick will never amount to being near as good as Niko...the bright side is, our existing pick should get better.

Nice trade. Hopefully Pelicans don't make playoffs and don't somehow pull a total fluke in the lottery haha.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 11:42 AM) They could get Robin Lopez for next to nothing. Bulls will not deal Lopez unless they get an asset for him. He's too strong of a presence and quality veteran to have the young players for the rebuild. If they get something worthwhile...sure...otherwise it isn't happening. I heard Woj on about a week ago and he had mentioned something to that effect.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 09:48 AM) This season was Loggains second as OC But you couldn't even compare this years version of Loggains to last years. I think Fox meddled more because he knew you couldn't just let Trubisky drop back and throw it 50 times and that Glennon was incapable too...wide recievers sucked, etc. Lots of reasons and excuses but no one can deny that the statement Jordan Howard made is anything other than factual. We clearly were predictable on offense.

Lebron going to Golden State would suck but I'm not going to worry about it right now. I love watching basketball. Just love it. Such a fun sport...if only I could go to more games in person. Too cheap to buy tickets and no longer work in consulting where I have big expense account haha. Am left to about one game a year. Heck I've enjoyed watching the Bulls this year (when Dunn and Lauri are on the court). I can't say they are enjoyable at all when Jerian Grant plays. I'm starting to hope we can pull of a trade for a New Orleans 1st round pick and than work the Cavs to get the Nets pick. No idea how to do it but Cavs might get desperate enough and maybe we can take on some contracts from Pelicans to facilitate something for them. Probably unrealistic for both to happen but I think we might be able to come up with something interesting to get the Nets pick.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 02:43 PM) That is probably the Bulls holding him out to prevent injury. Yeah - I presume this is the Bulls holding him out. Basically the report is he is being held out until the trade deadline passes. Helps ensure we tank in between now and the trade deadline and minimizes the chance Niko gets hurt when we are trying to move him.

Awful. Thoughts go out to their family and friends.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 08:46 AM) It's not that Alex Smith is bad. It's giving up a solid cornerback and a draft pick to get him, then giving him $23 million a year for 3 years guaranteed. You could have Cousins for much less earlier and I don't think there is a huge upgrade between the two. I agree with you that Washington completely messed up the Cousins situation so much so that I really don't think Cousins returning to Washington was an option. Given where they were picking, I think they made a solid move trading for Smith. Sam Bradford was traded for a 1st rounder (by Minnesota...not even referring to Eagles / Rams deals)...they gave up a 3rd rounder and a slot corner for Smith.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 07:42 AM) I just want to say that even though I think this isn't a good trade for the Washington football team that I think Smith is a qb that can play at roughly the same level to age 40. He has been a pretty healthy qb who is mobile but doesn't rely on mobility. His game isn't predicated on deep ball (at all). I don't see why Alex Smith going to Redskins is that bad. I presume they didn't want to franchise Cousins again and knew they were going in another direction. Alex Smith is a good QB and I would expect his game to age well.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 30, 2018 -> 04:11 PM) http://m.espn.com/nba/playercard?playerId=...amp;src=desktop Seems like he is done for the season Never heard of him, but how is he a unique asset? Is there something special about his contract? I see nothing interesting about his career stats.

How is Demps playing hardball. Who is Ajinca? Is that supposed to be Asik? How the heck is Asik a unique asset? I presume Bulls leaking is to basically tell other orgs interested in Niko to put out your best and final offer.

Interesting to see where the dominoes fall and what (if any) protection exists on that 1st round pick.

Dunn supposedly still out for a while. Good for the tank, but I feel bad for Dunn. Hopefully he gets better and in the meantime we lose games because Jerian Grant is sucking it up (like usual). This team is unwatchable with Grant at the point. He is the tank commander.

This seemed like a good trade for the Pistons. Clippers were in no mans land and had to make these moves (no cap space going forward) and a guy who is a great player when healthy (Griffin) but who has demonstrated an inability to stay healthy. Like it for Pistons a lot though. Mainly because I don't think they could attract a player like Blake via FA.

QUOTE (Quin @ Jan 29, 2018 -> 10:59 AM) Swap TT for Love and maybe the Cavs think about it. Otherwise nah. Yes, this seems much more plausible.

I just want to say I'm glad Brady made a point to that radio host about his daughter. Ridiculous.

I would absolutely love it. No idea why Cleveland does it.

How much longer is Dunn out? I don't mind all this losing while he is out...as long as Lavine eventually gets things right. Wouldn't want him to struggle for a really really long time because than it makes it a much more difficult decision to process (given he is going to be a RFA this year).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 27, 2018 -> 03:46 PM) 2 and a half seasons from now? That's a long wait to keep cap space available. They'll have to let guys like Lavine and Dunn go. I presume it would be via trade. I imagine by next trade deadline AD is dealt. Losing Cousins has a huge impact on their future, imo.