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I would have thought this would have taken traction on real gm bulls board, but I haven't seen anything. Curious to see whether this ends up being true or not (not saying you are making up, just whether the reporters are accurate). If the Goff's of the world are reporting it, you'd have to figure Cowley, KC, and others would get to that point.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 02:15 PM) This is what was said in the earlier Goodwill article. Unless we got a guaranteed 1st, I wouldn't have made that trade. Would have put the Bulls in a worse long-term position due to Koufas contract. Another report had indicated Pax was for it but the Bulls were ultimately the destroyer of the deal when Gar convinced everyone to roll with Pau with MJD getting back as he thought the team might have a run left in them.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 12:16 PM) Yea, during the show, they discussed it a little bit during transition also. He stopped short of guaranteeing it, but he said he will be extremely surprised if Forman is still the GM As soon as KC started putting this Pax wanted this and Gar wanted that story, it told me there was a real probability of something going down. I know in that same piece, KC said he expected things to stay the same, but If that was the case, I don't see why someone within the front office leaks that.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 12:11 PM) I would have made that Jimmy deal in a heartbeat. That plus other picks and Crowder makes it a very interesting deal. I don't know that I do it purely for the Nets pick as we aren't taking about an amazing draft. Maybe if the Nets win the lotto and you now know you have the #1 or #2 pick and you've evaluated and you are comfortable, do you evaluate it.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 12:42 PM) But to who? The rams are only team in need of a QB (unless saints make the jump), and the teams around the Rams are unlikely drafters of a QB> You'd need a thread of say the Jets being interested and potentially moving up and thus pressuring the Rams.

QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 12:29 PM) Do the Bears have the leverage needed to trade down and get multiple draft picks if their guy isn't there in the top 12? I think the question would be what player is there that a team would want to move up for. My only answer would be a QB (if a team wanted to move up for it). Given the talent after top 8 or so picks drops off and you have a glut of guys with similar ratings (based upon consensus reports), it would seem that the most probably scenario would be a team like the Rams potentially moving up to secure a QB who had fell (or being afraid someone else above them would grab Lynch, if that is who they'd want). I suppose maybe a team could target Treadwell or Ezekiel if they were there at the Bears pick and they needed to move a few slots to secure it. I can't imagine any major moves. If we could move down a few spots, I would do it in a heart beat as I don't anticipate much difference between 12 and 15th or 16th given the plethora of needs. I do kind of hope that Hargraves is there as I think he's just a good pure corner and we could use it.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 11:21 AM) Crowder's turned into a good player this year, but I don't think he's near Jimmy's level yet. Sure there were other parts to the deal, but I think Boston missed out on a pretty good trade there. I sure as hell wouldn't have been happy trading Butler. We finally developed a good wing player and we want to trade him away cause he didn't like the coach and maybe rubbed some players the wrong way? The NBA's a superstar league, and Jimmy's as close to that as we have right now. There's no way we should be letting a rookie head coach or a couple of over the hill veterans determine his importance to this franchise. Correction, he's rubbed certain veterans the wrong way, most likely those same vets who remember him as being a bench / role player, non-high pick and have a hard time being in his shadow. I agree with you, the Boston deal would have been awful. Only deal I'm making is where you are getting some top 15 player or guy you think can be an elite top 15 NBA player (i.e., top 2 pick where you like the possibilities or young player(s) you project.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 10:42 AM) Tell me who this sounds like Technically, Phil did everything in his power to make players think for themselves as well. Trestman was awful and did a lot of bad things. Hoiberg might be that guy and there are similarities, but in the case of Marc, he screwed it up despite coming into a system where the players hadn't been empowered by management. Trestman replaced Lovie, but it wasn't as if the front office told the players a year before to ignore Lovie's message cause he's gone anyway and thus you immediately set a very very poor message that would be difficult for any new coach to enter. Honestly, the situation Gar created by doing that, created a situation where, in my opinion, only the best and most powerful established coaches could succeed. Bringing in a rookie NBA coach into that mess was a recipe for failure (even if Hoiberg was the second coming of Phil or Red Auerbach). And this is coming from someone who has bashed Hoiberg excessively, the Bulls certainly didn't hand him any favors by neutering Thibbodeau the year before. Only way this changes now is by either players changing there ways as a result of the sting of missing the playoffs (plus some various roster moves to help change the culture and bring in new players who know Butler as nothing but the current star that he is and only know, in a Bull uniform, Hoiberg's ways). I do think the finally absolutely failing when having full freedom and laissez faire might help set a bit of the tone. My guess is the leaders next year will be Noah & Butler and I would hope the two of them would work together. Taj might stick around but I do really believe that Rose is gone.

I'd argue that Thompson defensive upside is better than Austin Jackson. That said, if we got a .730 OPS out of Jackson and above average D, I'd call that a player you can absolutely win with as well. I don't know what we will get long term. There was a point in time, I'd call Austin Jackson an above average player (averaged a 4.9 WAR over a 3 season span).

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 10:17 AM) How much cap room will the Bulls have to work with if they let Gasol and Noah walk? A lot. The real wild card is if they thought they could get Durant and adjust the team to build around him (whether he'd want to play / would fit with Jimmy, I don't know) but you could use the various chips to develop the team. Probability / odds of success of that happening are low, but you also have to remember they could likely move Rose and if so they'd have massive money. In this free agent class, massive money doesn't help (as teams will overpay) unless you are getting a bonafide star. It is also why I'd have a hard time moving Butler. He works extremely hard, has done nothing but get better every year, and is signed to an affordable contract (especially given the expanding cap).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 07:26 AM) Are you talking about Thompson? Are you honestly telling me that you expect him to sustain a fluke first week in the majors into a career? All you have to do is look at his August numbers and his September numbers to understand that we aren't talking about sustainability. In fact his September .732 OPS falls right in line with his AAA career average OPS of .735. In fact his career high for ANY year in the minors was .809. That is purebread lunacy to think he is a .900 OPS player. This is a really good post. I would argue he is one of those players who could outproduce slightly from an offensive position (vs. his minor league numbers) given his tools. That said, if Thompson actually posts a .730-.750 OPS while playing plus defense in center, I'd call that a really good player. I don't know whether he will do that or not, but I talked to a scout at spring training and he had nothing but nice things to say about Trayce and his view was that Trayce was going to be a solid starter. That said, Sox really liked Trayce...they weren't dying to get rid of him, but they had a massive hole at 3B and hand to find someway to address it if they intended to contend.

How much of the Butler being a leader / rubbing people the wrong way is an issue because of Jimmy vs. an issue because guys who were better and were used to being better than him aren't now and thus, a little jealous / still look at him as the little guy. http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/04/12/report..._medium=twitter You think about Jimmy and how he took Dougy under his win. You think about him playing hard and putting in tons of work and leading by example from that perspective. Two major, positive checks from a "leadership" perspective. On the flip side, you think of him publicly calling out Fred, that would be a knock. I've seen some comments from MJD which talk about his concerns on offense. I've always thought MJD was a pretty astute guy and he basically said he's not sure how they will figure out how to solve the offense. Not sure if that is a shot at either Butler / Rose / Hoiberg or more just a shot that the way they play, it just isn't going to work together.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 01:05 PM) More specifically, Nathaniel Stoltz said he was built like Trout physically. Body comp, but not tools comp. Maybe I saw Engel on an odd day, but I don't see a build like Trout (at least not today's version of Trout). Trout is one of the strongest, shorter, stockier guys I've seen. I don't remember Engel being as stocky / strong. That isn't a knock, Trout just has a really unique body type. He does have a ton of physical tools / attributes though (Engel).

QUOTE (ozzfest @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 10:04 PM) chisoxfn, were you on 670 tonight? talking about the bulls with lawrence holmes? Not me. If I was, I'd have been saying how they should ditch Hoiberg and Gar at a minimum, so I'm going to guess it wasn't me. I'm 10000 percent over Gar and pretty much 100% over Hoiberg. I know that Hoiberg isn't going to go anywhere.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 07:01 PM) This town hall was a great idea for Trump. He needs to drag out his family more if they're willing. Ivanka in particular. She's a very impressive person and I assume she'll become a bigger part of the campaign now that she had her child. I do agree his family is pretty normal (for being billionaires) and Ivanka is impressive. All of them are pretty articulate people and seem like good kids / adults.

QUOTE (InTheDriversSeat @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) The Hawk made a comment during the Twins home opener on Monday. It was early in the game when Avisail went up to bat. Hawk said that he watched Avi's homerun on Saturday from his home (at Granger, Indiana) using his iPad. He said he used his iPad because "Nobody carries WGN in South Bend, Unbelievable." Apparently Ken is still not aware that WGN games are aired on free, over-the-air HD television in South Bend. One would think that someone from WGN Sports or the Sox front office could explain what's going on. I wonder how Hawk was able to watch online streaming since northern Indiana is included in the White Sox 4-state 'streaming blackout zone'. Perhaps MLB exempts members of the media or team front office employees from blackouts. . There are some special log-ins that get you full access. I used to have one, it was amazing (especially because it was free).

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 05:48 AM) No. He got ripped for thinking he knows more than doctors do. He stayed out way longer than was necessary. With the Bulls doctors, I don't blame him.

QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 05:08 PM) i do not know if the comment of his son is soo bad. i am at a lost here. i understand but he is playing the family first thingy. It is just more of his laissez faire, doesn't care attitude. It just doesn't come off well. I expect people to be pissed when you miss the playoffs. The greats all have that edge. I can't imagine Lebron making that type of comment or Steph or anyone else really. I see people like Taj run through walls for the Bulls or Noah or even Jimmy (he's said dumb things about season being over, but you knew he'd doing everything in his power to play). Rose has got to be as unbelievably unlikeable of a star as to ever walk the face of the earth (for someone who hasn't done something illegal).

Did Rose actually make a comment a week ago that if he missed the playoffs that just meant he got to spend more time with his son? I mean, its totally believable, but did he say that out loud? What are the odds he is gone...98%?

In the words of Peggy Hill....HOOOO YEAHHHHH!!!

I later answered my own question. Butler said he owes it to his teammates, fans, etc to play since he has already missed so much time. I think it is absurd and Bulls should have just sat him (given his knee issue). If Thibs had done this with Butler (post injury) he'd have been run out of dodge.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 10:38 AM) It's not corrupt - the selection of a candidate is a party process, not an election. That said, I agree with you that the ideal model is for all party races to be voted, via primaries, in every state, without any Supers or Nationals or any of the other garbage. I'd certainly prefer that. I fully agree.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) Not really. The board is elected by the stockholders to represent them. And it is the board who makes decisions on the CEO. Technically strange is right, either way, board approves compensation as well (not just CEO's). Yeah, they don't look at chisoxfn's individual, but select committees approval total raises throughout organization, etc.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 12:04 PM) Rose, Pau, Taj, E'Twaun all inactive for the final two games Why not Butler?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 06:45 AM) Travis Yost ‏@travisyost NHL playoffs: 1 v 14 2 v 17 3 v 5 4 v 9 6 v 13 7 v 10 8 v 11 12 v 15 Hawks are lucky enough to be in the 3 vs 5 matchup How does this work?