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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 06:29 PM) In the right circumstance, I would trade Paulie to the Angels. That would mean Morales coming back, because as hopeful as I am for Swisher returning to decency next season, I do not want him as the 1Bman (though LF would be just fine by me). The only "bold" prediction I will make, and I emphasize bold because I don't think it really is that bold, is that one of Konerko and Dye is dealt for pitching and perhaps a hitting prospect of some type (I don't have anything brewed up in my head, just a thought) or that Swisher is included in a package for a better player, which I think would be a shame but something that, at this point, you can't really be opposed to. As nice as Swisher's contract is - paging Dick Allen - it's too expensive to be sitting on the bench as an OF/1B so you either need to make room in the lineup for him somehow or you should trade him. It is nice to have that insurance policy on the bench, but that's an insurance policy that's more expensive than Juan Uribe was last year, is signed to a longer term deal, has had success in the past (so there is some precedent for value), and has never proven to be able to produce consistently while coming off the bench, which Juan Uribe has done. You shouldn't force any moves, and it would suck to trade Swisher at an incredibly low value, but what has to be done in any manner is what has to be done. I realize the benefit of keeping Swisher around hoping that he will come closer to his prior production but the reality is this guy doesn't hit over .260 and that is just bad news. Sure it would be acceptable if he hit for 35+ Hr's and posted a ridiculous OBP (which he typcially does) but when you already have a team that struggles to hit for a high average it's just a bad bad idea. Swisher needs to go, imo. I don't expect him to come close to playing as s***ty as he did last year but he just isn't a good fit on this team (especially now that Ramirez/Quentin have established themselves).

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 06:23 PM) 32 is old? Really? The worst thing in baseball is an aging speedster. Figgins hasn't been able to stay fully healthy for the last two years, and his lack of extra base hits are troubling. With that said, he is a very good fit for this club. That doesn't mean you have to overpay for him, which Konerko would be. He's an excellent fit for the club but will be pricey. I'd consider a Morales/Figgins for Konerko swap solely because I like Morales more than almost anyone (aside from Cubano). I'm convinced with consistent playing time you are talking about a .300 hitter with an above average OBP and 20 hr's. Sure it isn't the typical production of a first baseman but it would be a nice bat from the left side of the lineup. I just don't think Figgins is the player he was a couple years back. He's had some injury problems the past couple of years and will lose a lot of his value as he continues to slow (plus aging speedsters become more and more prone to further injuries).

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 06:11 PM) Want a surprise? Gavin Floyd (SP) and Josh Fields (3B) for Chone Figgins (3B/2B/OF), Sean Rodriguez (2B), Anthony Ortega (SP) and Rafeal Rodriguez (RP) Don't ever bring up the name Sean Rodriguez. He makes Brian Anderson look like Babe Ruth at the plate. And there ain't a chance in hell I'm trading Floyd without getting another young potential front of the rotation starter in return.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 06:34 PM) I'm just going to say very quickly that I don't understand how Gavin Floyd was "stolen." He had fallen out of favor in Philadelphia and was included with a talented pitcher who had stunk in AA the year before for a pitcher who had thrown 200+ innings the previous 6 years, had World Series experience, and was coming off a solid season. Perhaps KW knew he was injured and he dealt him for chump change, but that's more than a bit unethical as it is. KW traded Freddy Garcia for the best package he felt he had on the table, and Gavin Floyd was a highly valued commodity coming back to the White Sox. Carlos Quentin and Bobby Jenks were stolen much moreso than Gavin Floyd was. The Sox gave up an A-ball slugger and a 40-man roster spot respectively for the aforementioned; compare that with a guy who helped the White Sox win a World Series. You tell me who was more stolen. I realize Quentin was ridiculosu this past season but its hard to say he was stolen at the time of the trade. Chris Carter is an above average power hitting prospect (40+HR Power and he hit for ridiculous power this season in the minors). Problem is he has absolutely no position.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 04:19 PM) Yep, he's nothing more than a AAAA player. No way we go into next season with a Getz/Nix platoon. Seriously, 2003-2004 is a long ways away from 2008. The reality is he's not much of a prospect. He has some athletic ability and could project nicely off the bench but I wouldn't count on him being anything more than that and I'm pretty damn sure Kenny isn't expecting more than that either. Sure he has some tools and could turn into a fluke type of pick-up but you can't make a hobby of banking on those type of pickups. I still anticipate the Sox making a serious run at a 2B or a CF that could lead off. If they get one, you'll see them potentially go cheap at the other position (ie, Getz at 2B).

QUOTE (Cali @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 10:20 AM) Rise Against - Audience of One Finally a Rise Against song I really like. Mainly because it doesnt follow the same "Quiet Quiet YELL YELL!! Slow Slow Fast Fast" formula ALL their songs usually follow.... The Album as a whole is pretty solid but that one song definitely stands out as being the best on the album (imo).

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What type of suspension are these guys facing?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 25, 2008 -> 02:00 PM) I've always thought Hinrich would be an ideal #3 guy on a team with a dominant scoring guard. Put him next to Wade, or Kobe, or TMac, somewhere that he doesn't have to generate shots for people but where he can help out by being the solid guard defender that gives the big name guy a break on the defensive end, and he'd be in the perfect role. Exactly, give him a team with a good big and scoring guard and you are talking Hinrich up as a very good player. He could be very much what Manu was (obviously in a different position) to Duncan and Parker. Obviously Manu has more ability than Hinrich at this point though.

I go back to events at my school quite often and try to talk to people about careers in the industry so I consider that a pretty good way of giving back, but I definitely plan on donating to my alma mater in the future. I loved my experience there and the combo of cost and education couldn't be beat. I got a job at a top firm and really received a tremendous education and I'm very proud that I graduated from there.

Sex Drive was surprisingly entertaining....roadtrip meets american pie but not as epic as either.

Red Bull only tastes good with booze and even than its so terrible for you. I can't touch energy drinks if booze isn't involved. SO playing basketball...so fun. More fun when you PWN everyone on the court. Pull up J...Ben Gordon style woot woot.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Oct 23, 2008 -> 12:05 PM) Still Tucson I think. They're hoping to be in Glendale for 2010 IIRC. Last I saw they were hoping to be in Glendale this season. Nothing is official though and my guess is that it will go down to the wire.

I think moving Thome could be a very good idea if the Sox could find a way to acquire a good young hitter since you could still have a pretty powerful lineup without an aging Thome. I could make the same case about moving a Dye or Konerko as well. But again, you got to get good market value for them.

Steff...should I wait and just rent it?

Hinrich has always been partially handicapped on the Bulls. Put him with the right personel and your talking about a very valuable player. All Star, absolutely not, but above average, certainly.

This KU/TT game will be fun to watch. Hopefully It'll still be going on when I get back from playing some basketball.

QUOTE (chisoxt @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 04:40 PM) Unfortuantely, when it comes to veteran players, Kenny has a habit of overrating and acquiring certain players. Last year's poster child was Swisher..my fear is that Figgins will be this years entry. And for God's sake people, look at Figgin's stats and tell me that he is a good player! A third baseman that drove in all of 22 runs! He's a leadoff hitter and I'd hope the Sox would stick Figgins in CF. They have needed a CFer for years and there is no reason Figgins couldn't be a league average defensive CF (if not better). Figgins has a plus arm too.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 01:04 PM) Arte loves to spend money, and I don't see that stopping. If anything, the last few years have been disappointments in LA, so you might see an even bigger push from him. Plus they'll have Frankie, Garland and Garret Anderson's fat contracts coming off there books. Well, maybe not huge contracts, but still expensive. Unfortunately they are still stuck with Matthews Jr.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 12:49 PM) I can't see the Angels making another splash in the market this off season, after the past two, but who knows. There has been some talk of him going to the Yankees because Giambi is off the books. Baltimore is also a possibility but he won't take a hometown discount IMO. The Angels didn't win the series and if they don't sign Tex than they'll be in the market for a first baseman. They could fall back on Kendry Morales though, who is a guy I would target if the Sox used a couple trips and opened up a spot at 1B. Morales can be a pretty damn good pickup and develop into a good 5 hole hitter.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 05:50 AM) http://www.baseball-reference.com/f/figgich01.shtml OK, I'm on the fence with Figgins, leaning towards not being very impressed, but I'm open to arguments for him. So those posters who are in favor of the Sox obtaining him, tell me why. Please just don't say "speed" speed alone is overrated Figgins is a great fit and I like the guy a lot when he's 100% but he's had two straight injury plagued seasons and I just think there are better options out there. That said I'd be excitd to have him and I guess you could move Paulie expecting Swisher to slide into first and play better (although I still don't consider Swisher an acceptable first baseman). Prince Fielder is definitely an intriguing name if the Sox opted to move Thome or Konerko.

QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Oct 23, 2008 -> 08:50 PM) It wouldn't exactly be a surprise or shocking if it is the most expected move. Shocking would be a trade of one of our team core like Buerhle, Konerko, Thome, or Dye. Those guys are no longer the core of the team. Well Buehrle is and you could make a case that Paulie still is but the others probably won't be along much longer. I consider the core Buehrle/Danks/Floyd/Ramirez/Quentin/Jenks.

QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Oct 23, 2008 -> 12:45 PM) Italy Grappa, Limoncello, Sambuca. Beer - Peroni, Moretti Get some soppresatta to munch on and you're all set. Yum, soppresatta....delicious.

QUOTE (shipps @ Oct 23, 2008 -> 06:21 AM) Lol.Is there like some stripper store I can go to?Where would one even buy pasties? With time your body gets used to it. When I get into running grooves the first week or so I'll have some chaffed nipples but your body adapts and it goes away.