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Fedde made a discernable change in his pitching repertoire and is #16 in fwar. He's worth a lot more than some team's spare parts or declining prospects (which Getz has to be on the lookout for).

Isn’t Leasure one of our top relievers?

Thank You, Tanner.

I’ve never seen a manager with less feel for a bullpen. A lot of decisions are 50/50, but he makes the wrong choice time after time.

Padres did the same thing…. I suspect the same thing will happen if we trade crochet or Robert. We won’t get the elite. aces are so hard to come by. Really wish they would find a way to extend him, even given the risks.

Ozzie as manager is just another way to perpetuate the problem of insider Ian and old-line thinking. I do think that the team would be 10 to 15 games better with an average bullpen and an average manager.

Cannon did a great job in the pen yesterday; why not just leave him there and let him learn for the rest of the season or for a month? Lord knows he's better than the hacks that the Sox have in the pen. The pen is a good way to ease into the league; he can start next season.

No.

Not sure what your point is, but free agency started well before 1980 and the draft started before 1972.

In 1972, Steve Carlton won 27 games on the 59 win Phillies. 8 years later, he won 24 games on the World Champion Phillies.

Well it's the other teams that should have the sense of urgency to put forth packages FOR Crochet. They get one of the best pitchers in baseball for 2.5 more years. He'd be the #1 on 2/3 of the contenders. Getz needs to make them pay and pay big.

Another great game by crochet. And good job by Cannon showing these bums in the bullpen how to close out a game.

Woodford obviously needs to be DFAd tonight. That was a disgrace. I'd like to see them give Dominguez a shot. He's a AAAA guy, but he's been a Sox lifer, pitching decently in Charlotte and why not give him a moment in the sun?

He's not even a real prospect though, is he?

What is that? What TF is that? What is that Pedo, Chris and JR?

And Duke Ellis!

WTF, Kopech? I'm so broken, I'm starting to feel sorry for Pedro.

Sometimes when they move guys up real fast (without performance that would warrant it) or jump them a level to fill an opening, I get the feeling that the FO has basically given up on further development.

Objectively, I would say the AAA guys are suspect.

They could be competitive in 3 years if done correctly; 5 years away = 10 years away = perpetual rebuild (Pirates). Now I don't know whether Getz will do it correctly or not. But the farm has been improving, and not just from the players brought in from other orgs. And some of the farm will have to be traded, but never for aging players, rents or one-year wonders. More good news is that Crochet is #8 in pitcher fWAR (one spot ahead of Cease) and Fedde is #30, ahead of several name pitchers and pitchers whose names have been bandied about as having good years. I do wish that Getz had put more into this bullpen; they make nice trade pieces (and this horrid pen is a contributor to this being a 40 win team instead of 60 win). Can Getz get this done? I have no idea. But too early to give up or to pound on him.

Getz has made a few dumb personnel moves, but those things don't really make me think he'll be a bad GM (he's also made some good ones). He was saddled with a lot of immovable flotsam for this season. But the one thing that DOES scare me is that he retained Grifol and listens to him (Maldonado is probably a Grifol request). It was obvious a year ago that the game is way over Grifol's head. Getz needs to surround himself with strong baseball minds, and he should be self-aware enough to know that he needs to do that to succeed.

Sox need position players. Maybe Preller/Getz can find a 3rd team with an abundance of position prospects that could use his pitching prospects. As for pitchers, it's got to be 3 really good prospects as most don't make it. Crochet has made it.

Yea, I like selling to the Padres. They always have a bounty of legit prospects and aren't afraid to deal them....presumably because Preller, the best talent identifier in the biz, knows that he can find more.

Passan on ESPN writes that the Sox are willing to trade anybody, including Crochet and Robert.

Thanks. While Gonzalez wasn't the preferred choice of most, he wasn't a huge reach either. Also only significantly punted 1 round.