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Randy Orton was freaking amazing tonight. Man that dude is the s***.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 08:24 PM) Man, Charlie Leesman has been a completely different pitcher in AA. Bizarre really. I wonder what changed. If I had to bank, something the AA pitching coach saw mechanically and tweaked it. He probably got away with it in Kanny, but when he reached W-S, it was more exposed. Also has helped his control which is evident of his SO:BB ratio. Can't even blame the park either. He's pitching better away (though a small sample thus far) than he has at home. Viciedo 1-14, 5 SO since being sent back down.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 04:22 PM) What could the Bulls offer? They'd have to include Noah as a minimum, and still include enough salary to make the trade work. Deng for sure (he might have his flaws, but he is still young and puts up solid numbers) + Taj/Noah probably + maybe picks (I'd give them both Charlotte and ours). That still might not be enough though. I'd give them anyone but Rose to get Melo basically. Not getting my hopes up even alittle on it though. New York would have to offer Gallo and Chandler for sure +. (they really do not have much and all their picks are gone) Melo is NY bound though if/when he walks.

Major Wright to have surgery on his left index finger. He's probably out for the preseason.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 04:25 PM) I wouldn't say 'no offensive support'. Just terribly inconsistent as of late. I meant hypothetically speaking. But yes agreed.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 03:23 PM) I'm really excited to see that the Pirates signed Stetson Allie. I'm loving their future. They are gonna have another top 10 pick next year. They got a few ways to go there, but there are gonna be a very good team in the next 3-5 years if all goes right. I still would like to see them sign McCutchen to a Tulo/Braun type contract before he gets too expensive. But their front office said they are much different on how they handle their business (obviously their drafting indicates that with the guys top $$) so that's good news for Pirate fans.

QUOTE (Cali @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 01:53 PM) I don't. There's equal chance any of the 4 of them could s*** the bed in any given start No there is a better chance they pitch well, but they have no offensive support actually.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 01:36 PM) Definitely. This has actually been a rather tame year for the AL as far as legitimate Cy Young candidates go. There's a lot of guys having really good years. But there's not one or two guys that jump out at you and say 'he's a lock.' You are right, no there isn't, which is why I'm disappointed Danks didn't get it going. He was in the conversation a couple starts ago, but since then has tailed off alittle. Might be the easiest year for any guy in the AL to win the Cy Young. Danks still has a chance however. Gotta improve on wins unfortunately which is what most people voting look at. His ERA is nice though and hopefully the sox can get 1st place which should help him also. Then again... that could be bigger leverage for Danks to get a bigger payday for an extension.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 11:46 PM) He's a good, but not great shooter. A majority of his shots are 3's. All I'm saying is that I don't think we'd be dumb to not go get him. But we certainly would be dumb if we overpaid for him. Now this my friend.... I'm down with. QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 11:48 PM) When did I ever say he was garbage? I don't think I've said anything even close to that. I know, just throwing some of my own hyperbole back at cha. I'm just worried about the Bulls lack of a consistent threat for Rose to really optimize his potential. We were the second worst three point shooting team from last year, and we already lost Hinrich (who I hated anyways, but he was at least a threat from 3) and Miller/Salmons. We finally have a low post threat (thank god) in Boozer, but still did not address a glaring weakness. Korver can not do it all by himself, especially not starting (no we won't get starters minutes). We have to rely on Rose really improving (possible) and Deng. (who never strikes me as a guy who really works on his game anyway) Brewer can't do it (though it's not all his fault, cause of that injury in his childhood) Bogans/Watson are meh, Johnson probably won't play much and the rest are bigs who are non threats at all. And as much as we all love Derrick, we can't have him just jacking up alot of 3s all season.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 10:32 PM) Putting numbers in bold won't help your argument. I like Rudy. I don't like that he takes a ton of 3's. And I wouldn't want to overpay for him. And putting him in the same breath as Ray Allen, Steve Kerr, and Brent Barry is just wrong. Allen is one of the best pure shooters ever amd Kerr shot over 45% from 3 in his career. And all 3 had field goal % over 45% for their career. Thats all you got Slav? I put them in bold to show the large difference in what I was saying about him and his three point attempts, not because I was trying to "help my argument" its facts. When your shooting 39% and your FG% is 41% obviously there is more to that (wow.. like taking 8/10 of your shots from 3 perhaps is it... hmmm). And take your hyperbole crap out of here. I never mentioned Kerr, Barry or Allen in the "same sentence" in fact I was saying I would love Kerr or Barry to somehow go into the past and come back 10-15 years younger to help us (or for NJ to trade Morrow here). Your acting like I said Rudy was as good as those guys as a shooter who were both 41% and 45% respectively. (simply ridiculous BTW) And I was showing Allen's career 40% as an example of your ridiculous post about Rudy's 39% being "not that high." You said it, live with it. The only "semi" comparison I made was from Kyle Korver since he is now with us and had a crazy year from downtown last year. QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 11:32 PM) And this might be a dumb question, but what records did Rudy break as a rookie? Already late for that... but Rudy broke the three point record for Rookies as in.. most 3 pointers made during the regular season. And BTW, I agree with you he has been overrated by Bulls fans... ALOT. That doesn't mean though that he's garbage.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 10:28 PM) Anyone else watch the Hoff Roast? Greg Giraldo's Gary Coleman joke was fantastic. I saw the beginning of it when Lampanelli, Hamilton and Ross roasted him. Lisa Lampanelli was fantastic (she usually is). Ross was horrible. Hamilton was hit and miss. I'll try and catch the rest tomorrow as I'm sure they'll re-air it.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 09:35 PM) I wouldn't call Rudy a sniper at all. I like him, but he seems to be pretty overrated. A high percentage of all his shots are 3's, and he doesn't hit them at that high of a clip, 38.7% in his 2 seasons while shooting 40.6% from the field as a whole. If 39% from three point range isn't considered "that high" especially when usually 40% from three is considered "good/very solid" than I would hate to see what "that low" means from your end. And Rudy's 41% from the field is there why? Because that's all he did was shoot threes in Portland's system. Of his 6.8 FG attempts, 4.3 of them were for threes. 4.3! and in his career, of his 7.5 FG attempts, 4.7 were from threes. Anyone's FG% would be low if they were taking nearly every shot from distance. Dude lit the lamp in his rookie year setting the rookie record. He was also better used when he had his Spanish PG distributing and was more spread out in Portland's playbook. Just for comparisons sake, Korver is a career 41% (lower than that before his ungodly year last year) three point shooter. Of his 5.4 FG attempts 2.1 were from three point attempts when he shot the best FG% from three ever. Last year it was 7.2 FG attempts, 3.4 from three. Hell Ray Allen is a career .396% (pretty much 40%) three point shooter. His three point attempts last year was 5.0 and he had 12.2 FGs attempted. Rudy has nearly equaled him in three point attempts while not even shooting more (overall, 2s 3s, whatever) than Ray. In other words, he has been used very poorly/incorrectly in Portland's system. If Steve Kerr or Brent Barry wants to hop on a time machine and come back 10-15 years younger to play for us, than I would be all for it. Or if New Jersey hates Morrow because he shoots too good, then cool beans, we'll take him.

They draft well and develop well. And when someone gets hurt, they plug in someone else and not miss a beat.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 03:22 PM) Juan Pierre does not have a 22 game hitting streak. His hitting streak ended at 16. Steve Stone stands corrected then. QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 03:25 PM) Pena's ERA going to be over 5.50 after this inning. Can't wait until he's out of this organization, and we get an actual long man. Well Pena was not a long man to begin with. Sox left him out there to die alot this year.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 11:27 AM) Keith Bogans is going to receive very limited playing time. People who are begging for all these secondary role players need to realize that there are only so many minutes to go around. At the SG/SF positions, you need to divide 96 minute between Brewer, Korver, Deng, Bogans, Rudy, Johnson and even Watson. Getting Rudy isn't really vital for future success, and getting yourself into a bidding war won't help. Ya, he's exciting to watch, but he's also inconsistent and has been complaining about playing time. Overpaying for him would be an incredibly dumb mistake. Keith Bogans right now is our second SG off the bench, plus Thibs likes him alot. (wanted him all off-season) And yes Rudy is that talented. If you get him, he SHOULD be starting. Got your sniper in Rudy, slasher in Deng, post up man in Boozer, and garbage putbacks by Noah, and Rose does what he does which can help his drive and kick game. Plus Brewer can be subbed in late (more energy consumed as well) to guard SG/SF late in quarters.

QUOTE (TomPickle @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 03:19 PM) I really hope we don't let Sale languish as the second lefty in the bullpen next year. There is 0 chance he'll be in the bullpen next year. Sox didn't draft a guy that high to be a middle reliever for his career.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 03:15 PM) I have more confidence in Pierre to get a hit right now than anyone on this team. That 22 game hitting streak is terrible isn't it?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 03:12 PM) Do you really have that much confidence in Juan Pierre? Pierre actually has sucess with RISP and is a contact hitter. Alexei doesn't have great discipline. Runner on 3rd less than 2 out, I'm more comfortable with Alexei cause he can hit the ball to the OF.

Ozzie has to learn Alexei can't always get the job done. I really hate giving up outs.

The way J.J. has been pitching lately, he might be in the sox price range this off-season like others here want him to be resigned.

Bulls need to stop f***ing around and get a deal done for Rudy. Let them have Charlotte's pick + if thats what it cost. This team is set for the future... and are in win now mode. They need every piece they can get that fits with Rose especially with D-Wade's super team around. Hopefully Gar/Pax doesn't blow it. Keith Bogans... yikes. (good defender though)

Kong.

Carl...

Heidrenreich had 12 BBs in 22 IP last season. He only has 10 BBs in 65 IP this year. He has also increased his SO per. He'll move quickly up the sox prospect boards next season. Saladino last 10 games: .412/.524/.706/1.230. Really like this kid as a prospect. Brandon Short.. 8 BBs this month in only 36 ABs.

To answer this thread... yes they are nerds, dorks, geeks, etc.. but... they are also highly respected... something you can't say about real life nerds/geeks/etc.. in schools where you can just pick on them or beat them up.. or ask to do your homework.