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QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 19, 2005 -> 04:47 AM) So what? Who had more sucess in their first 4 complete seasons? Who showed more signs of being a great MLB pitcher? I could only imagine the Sox signing some stud pitcher out of pony ball, and every time he got lit up, people would be screaming "HE'S ONLY 12 YEARS OLD!!!! HOW MANY WINS DID ROGER CLEMENS HAVE WHEN HE WAS 12???" Do you research and you will see. Garland's first 5 years, 149 games, 46 wins, age 25 Johnson's first 5 years, 157 games, 56 wins, age 29 I'm not saying Garland is better than Johnson. I'm just saying GET OFF HIS f***ING BACK!!!

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 19, 2005 -> 03:46 AM) I'm sorry that he hasn't been a 20 game winner by the age of 25... I know what you are saying. It would be interesting to let everyone know that Randy Johson only had 3 wins by the age of 25. Garland has 46.

I said we write a letter to the SF and Oakland papers telling them that we don't care about what AJ did in SF and we don't want to hear anymore of their stories. Then we ALL sign it.

Does anyone know how to get those huge MLB schedules that alot of bars have?

I was actually wondering the same thing you were Y2HH

QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 06:18 PM) But there's a significant difference: Ray was 23, and Willie was 26. Ray hadn't gotten anywhere near his full performance level, Willie..... Good point. I did overlook age.

Interesting comparisons for Willie Harris nay sayers. 1st year stats: G AB R H HR RBI BB SO SB CS OBP AVG Durham 1995 CHW 125 471 68 121 7 51 31 83 18 5 . 309 .257 Harris 2004 CHW 129 409 68 107 2 27 51 79 19 7 .343 .262 We might as well stick with Harris one more year and see what he can give us.

QUOTE(Loaiza21 @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 03:35 AM) this dude could be our best catcher since Fisk. What about Office Ron Karkovice? He was no all star but he did his damage with the bat when he needed to, he had the second best gun in the majors to one Pudge Rodriguez and he called a good game (just ask McDowell, Fernandez, Alvarez, Bere, Scott Sanderson & Roberto Hernandez who all had career years with him behind the plate).

I don't know why everyone is so ancy to get a different 2B. Harris has speed, good range and a good glove. He finished with a .262 average, which is respectable for his first full year. Yes he was inconsistent but who wasn't on this team? I really think he has potential and will prove naysayers wrong this year.

I don't see why everyone rips on Harris. Not alot of player kick butt their first full year. I still think Harris has potential and I don't think Cora would be a huge upgrade like everyone talks about. Cora has only had one year that I would call good in his career and he was given alot more opportunities than Harris. I say stick with Harris and see how he steps up after his first full year. He got a taste of what it's like to start so give him another year. Lets just compare the two stat wise: Cora Age: 29 MLB Experience: 7 yrs Career BA: .246 Career OBP: .314 Career Fielding Pct: .975 Career High SB: 7 Last Year BA: .264 Last Year SB: 3 Last Year OBP: .364 Last Year Fielding Pct: .987 Harris Age: 26 MLB Experience: 4 yrs Career BA: .240 Career OBP: .305 Career Fielding Pct: .988 Career High SB: 19 Last Year BA: .262 Last Year SB: 19 Last Year OBP: .343 Last Year Fielding Pct: .983 Stats are similar but I still think Harris can turn it around.

I agree with KW that we shouldn't just sign someone to spend the money we have. It has to be the right fit. If you compare our rotation to the rest of the Central and even the AL it is pretty good. Only problem is the inconsistency of Garland and Contreras. I really don't care to see another fielder join us. If we add any players they should be pitchers.

Agreed. Trade for Hudson and give him a $12-13/year extension.

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Welcome aboard. I agree that Grilli and Schoe will be given chances before we look back at Loaiza. I think we need to give Davis a chance to catch (he showed some potential last year) and if he faulters let Burke catch. Burke is a good hitter and a good fielder. Contrary to other posters I like the team we have together. I'd feel more comfortable if we had another good starter, but the team we do have can definitely compete in our division. Then we can go get a rent-a-player after the All Star break if needed. Ben Sheets is one pitcher I know that will be a free agent after 2005.

I really want to see Gload start. All I remember is his clutch hit off probably the best reliever in the american league, Francisco Rodriguez. The guy batted .397 with runners in scoring position. He can field. You got to let him play.

I'm tired of everyone crying about power. We don't need power!!!!!! The team that has beat us the last 3-4 years has had NO POWER. They had 3 guys with over 20 HRS last year, one of which is supposedly gone now. And they had NO ONE with over 100 RBIs. But they win cause they know how to play the game right.

Agreed

I hate to see a good player go but let's face it, Lee was a big part of our 2nd place tradition over the years. I am all for change. We may question KW moves but he wants to see a winning team out there as much as we do. I wouldn't be suprised if Kornerko was dealt too. I, like the rest of you, hope for a stud pitcher. If Ginter was at all a part of these deal then maybe we turn around and send him to Oakland with Garland for Hudson. Just a thought.

If that's true then there's another $12mil off the payroll.

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General managers spend other peoples money. People only spend money wisely when it's their own money.

His contract gave him option years that he took. He could have been a free agent a couple years ago but took his option instead. He probably wouldn't accept a trade anywhere either. I personally couldn't imagine Thomas in another uniform. It would be as bad as seeing Jordan with a Wizards jersey on.

KW has said he has a team lined up on his board for the next three years. He only has room for 3 outfielders, we know Dye is one and probably Rowand so that just leaves room for Sweeney. Anderson is apparently the odd man out.

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