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QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 08:11 PM) Wow....Better hope we don't face many lefties. If you replace one of the lefties with a righty then we are lopsided righty. Then you can say "Wow...Better hope we don't face many righties". There is an odd number of people so you are going to be lopsided one way or the other. These are major league baseball players. If they can't hit lefties and righties then they suck. VS. Lefties Crawford .288 Suzuki .352 Pierzynski .270 Thome .236 Do your homework next time. Class dismissed.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 05:05 PM) I would be sad also. But that wouldn't make it the wrong decision if the right deal came along. Agreed. I don't want to see anyone go but if a move will bring us a stronger pitching staff or Ichiro or Crawford then I am for it. This lineup would just be sick. I know I'm dreaming but hey, it's the offseason (for the Sox) CF Crawford RF Suzuki 1B Kornerko DH Thome 3B Crede CA Pierzynski 2B Iguchi SS Uribe LF Sweeney

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 04:31 PM) You are for trading the MVP of the 2005 world series, and a MVP runner-up in 2006 because his value is high. Why? Why do you trade someone just because his value is high? Can KW replace his value in the lineup? Does he have someone waiting in the minors to replace him in RF? Lets say KW traded Dye after the World Series because his value was high, would the Sox even competed in 2006? Ordonez and Thomas were "let go" because of money and injury concerns, not because KW decided he didnt want them. Lee was traded because KW realized he needed to put money elsewhere(catcher, relief, left field, 2nd base), not because their value was high, which is your argument. If I would have said "KW let Thomas and Ordonez go because their value was high", then I would be strenghtening your argument. Right now the return package would have to be incredible for KW to consider moving Dye, and I dont know if there is anyone out there willing to make that deal. I'm not saying get rid of Dye because his value is high. I'm saying that we have holes to plug and Dye is probably our most wanted player because of his abilities and because of his salary. He more likely to get traded because he is a free agent after 2007. He's also an outfielder which are a dime a dozen. I know KW isn't going to just give him away either. KW has always gotten the better end of the deal in my opinion.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 04:11 PM) Yet, Jermaine Dye was the MVP of the World Series That is my point. Who cares what his regular season stats are (2006) if you don't make it to the world series!!! QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 04:11 PM) Do you even remember that? Sirotka was damaged goods, he never pitched in the bigs again. KW was blacklisted for a period of time after that happened. Sirotka was still one of the Sox best players. Supposedly KW wasn't aware of the injury. QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 04:11 PM) And KW ended up with the Comeback player of the year while Rowand broke his ankle. Again, another statement supporting my argument. QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Oct 23, 2006 -> 04:11 PM) He didnt let Lee go. He traded Lee for Podsednik and Vizcaino. Same thing. When he traded Lee did he go? Yes. So he let him go. He didn't release him (I didn't say this). He didn't let him go via free agency (I didn't say this either). Everything you said made my argument stronger.

I know Dye had a great season last year but what are the odds of him repeating it? Remember that we won it all with Dye hitting 31 hrs and 89 rbi but we didn't make the playoffs with him hitting 44 hrs and 120 rbi. Why? Cause our pitching sucked and pitching wins. KW is full of suprises. I remember he traded, what was probably our best pitcher at the time, Mike Sirotka. KW traded the most hard nosed players on a World Series team, Aaron Rowand. KW let three of the most talented players in Whitesox history (Ordonez, Thomas and Lee) go. Don't put it past him.

I know no one probably wants to hear this but I think that Dye could end up being dealt. His stock is high, we have Sweeney/Fields waiting, and we are probably going to go back to small ball (which leaves power expendable). It would make sense to offer him up in some sort of Crawford or Ichiro deal or some deal to strengthen our starting rotation (both of which were our two weaknesses last year). Thoughts?

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 03:52 PM) http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=53963 They are always put in that forum after a few days I believe. Thanks Rufas

I went back through the old posts and searched but couldn't find it. Thanks in advance.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 06:59 PM) Coco Crisp offered for Mark Buehrle and Brad WIlkerson offered for one of our starters? What is up with that? Aren't starting pitchers at a premium? Shouldn't we be getting better offers than this? I just find this ridiculous. I've offered to kill them but KW has not returned my calls.

QUOTE(Benchwarmerjim @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 10:47 PM) I didnt think he would go there http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/base...e.ap/index.html Nice!!

The key stat that is missing is L or BS. Who cares if we score 10 runs if we don't win the game.

We now have 4 starters with ERAs over 4, 3 of which are over or close to 5. What do you think the problem is? Do you think they lost their desire to win since they already have a ring? Do you think the offense has been so good (stunk last year) that the pitchers feel they can slack more? With all this talk about us getting relievers, I'd rather get a top starter. Even if we made the playoffs, I wouldn't feel the confidence in this pitching staff I had last year.

So many people have cried in the past about sacrificing prospects for current big leagues. After reading this article and seeing what talent we have given up in the past I feel trading the future for the present is a wise move. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...t=.jsp&c_id=cws How many other prospects were all hype?

Pitching is more important than offense. We already have one of the best offenses in baseball but our starting pitching is still questionable outside Buehrle and Contreras. Two of our starters have ERAs over 5 and one over 4.5. If anything we need to upgrade our starting pitching. Jason Schmidt would be a nice addition and we could probably dump Vazquez if we ate some of his salary and some prospects. Keep McCarthy in the bullpen and bring him up next year after letting Schmidt walk.

Vazquez sucks. He throws BP everytime he pitches. His fastball is not what it was in Montreal. Dump his ass.

Had to say it. Does anyone know about Robbie Alomars availability?

Thanks yo

I know I know I'm a little behind but I've been busy. Is there a wallpaper for the June Schedule floating around?

It doesn't help that McCarthy and Politte suck too. Cotts, Jenks and Thorton are the only ones worth a crap.

Overbay stole a base? It's a sad sad day

This is just sad. It's like the Jays are using the big red wiffle bat. On another note: What the hell is Brian Anderson still in the majors?

Ozzie is a moron for taking out Vazquez. He can't leave anything alone. He always has to f*** with things to feel important. We better not blow another Vazquez win.

If Cliff Polite throws 1 pitch inside, JUST ONE!!!, there's no way Sweeney homers. Cliff was on the outside corner the whole time, Sweeney cheated and hit it out. I just hope Polite reads this message board!

I bet Hafner homers to show ozzie Lefty vs Lefty matchups are over rated

Why don't you think Guillen would call for the squeeze when cintron was batting?