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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 02:31 PM) I agree with what the results would be but that's not based on reality. Contreras had a little success with the Yankees in 2003. In fact, one of his most impressive performances was against the Sox, and of the 4 organizations he has pitched for, his highest ERA is with the Sox. He wasn't so great with the Sox for a while and I believe, as do others, El Duque had a lot to do with his White Sox success, but as is par for the course, any pitcher with success is because of Don Cooper. Any pitcher who isn't successful with the Sox is because either they weren't good or ballpark factors. Any hitter who struggles with the Sox is because Greg Walker is an idiot. Any hitter who is successful with the Sox is because they are just a good hitter. Walker has zero to do with it. We will see if the same line of thinking sticks with the new hitting coach. Sorry, dude. Contreras started game 1 of three consecutive playoff series after being banished by a club that had won a mega bidding war for his services (i.e. they gave up on him). That accomplishment >>>>>>>>> anything positive Walker has done.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 02:00 PM) Wouldn't it be a tie if the Yankees beat the Red Sox twice and the Rays win? Ellsbury now has 30 homers, 38 steals and 100 RBI's. Quite a season. Clearly the best leadoff hitter in baseball (along with Jose Reyes) and Top 3 in the AL MVP race. Yes. Boston loses; Tampa wins. Boston loses tonight and we have a WC tie! Unbelievable. I'm going to SOSH right now.

I'll say it before and I'll say it again - ALL of Soxtalk is property of WhiteSoxRandy for the rest of 2011. Save the "Nobody saw Dunn being this bad' jargon. That's just splitting hairs. Of course nobody could ever predict a full-time Major League baseball player hitting .160 with two trillion Ks over the course of a season. But there were warning signs. The second-half dip last year. The spike in Ks the last couple seasons. He's never been a designated hitter. And that's obviously more of a mental hurdle than I or anybody else thought it was at the time (like the set-up man forgetting how to pitch when he has to close *Thornton*). Randy wanted no part of Dunn. And we (me included) skinned him alive.

QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 10:57 AM) I place no value on another team wanting one of our coaches. So it doesn't matter if the Yankees want Coop or the Marlins want Oz. Those teams are different with different needs. I'm curious, why do some people place great value on the Yankees wanting to interview Coop while dismissing the Marlins making an offer for Oz? Seems like to be consistent you should value both the same. The Yankees are arguably the premier franchise in all of team sports. The Marlins are, well, the Marlins.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 11:29 AM) Stl can trade a starter to make room for MB, who knows how Wainright will do come spring. Stl would dump Lohse or Westbrook in a heartbeat to make room. Trade a starter to make room for another starter they don't have? Dump Lohse or Westbrook and eat all their salary to make room for Mark and the $10-12 million he will command over 2-3 seasons? Neither scenario makes any sense and is something you might be able to pull off on PS3 or 360.

There is one gentleman on planet earth that could make the impossible a reality. Too bad he resides in Canada.

QUOTE (shlammajamma @ Sep 21, 2011 -> 01:48 PM) thanks for the sarcasm jackass. youd think if it was so obvious people wouldnt respond to him. Lol. This is hilarious. Now kyyle is cool as f***. But mods were messing with me all off-season. And I never came at anybody personally (save once which was justified). I deserve a piece of pie or something. Lace it with rum. * cue shack once again saying I make everything about me*

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 04:01 PM) that and a massive payroll, which Toronto will never have. You would've said the same thing about Philly in '06. They came out of nowhere. Toronto is capable of something similar.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 02:31 PM) Defense up the middle (including CF) was always a major plus and a teams consideration while the corner positions were more power hitters and less good defenders don't you think? Um, no it wasn't. You don't know what you're talking about.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 03:23 PM) Wins don't matter, it is all about your spot on the top prospects list. Last I checked, Lawrie, Escobar, Rasmus, Morrow and Romero, the last being a better version of John Danks, who's locked up at $5.2 to 7.75 million through 2015 and a club option for 2016, aren't prospects anymore. And if the Phillies of the last three years haven't illustrated how important it is to have a productive system (Hallday, Lee, Oswalt, Pence), nothing will.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 02:43 PM) Are you being sarcastic? I think you're asking the wrong person that question.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 12:41 PM) There are plenty of guys who are in the HOF without the gawdy stats, but because of their contributions in other ways. A guy like Ozzie Smith comes to mind right away. Ozzie Smith revolutionized the SS position, though. Before Ozzie, it wasn't nearly as critical to have an above average defender manning said position.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 01:43 PM) That's cool we agree to disagree. What do you disagree about? That Prince will get at least 7 years/$150 million? That's a foregone conclusion.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 12:43 PM) And yet their records are still pretty much identical. That's the ultimate straw man and you know it. Sox are the Houston Astros in the east.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 12:29 PM) Getting to mediocre is the easy part. Actually winnings something is the hard part. Tampa has gotten somewhere, Toronto hasn't. There's not a thing that's been "easy" about the job he's done thus far. Sox fans are about to learn the hard way what it's like when your team is crippled with multiple albatross contracts and no farm to speak of.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 12:23 PM) Lillibridge is a GIANT among men. I think our season really went south on us when he got hurt No doubt. Everything was going beautifully until Lillibridge got hurt.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 12:15 PM) You're just a little too over the top. The guy's team has yet to even finish in 3rd place. Yes, he's made some nice moves. But his team still has to do something of significance, which I wouldn't call "halfway there". It's going to take a lot. Yes, ultimately you have to win games (divisions). And that's going to be a major hurdle to clear in the AL east. They overachieved with 85 wins last year. They'll end up about .500 this year. They're not that far away if they stay on course.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 11:56 AM) I know you love AA, but he should be nowhere close at this point. He's halfway there, and many would argue he's accomplished the more difficult half. To clean up the mess Riccardi left for him in less than two years time, amazing. Imagine a GM coming to the White Sox and somehow ridding the team of even two of Dunn, Rios and Peavy - while at the same time bringing in cheap/team-controlled talent (Lawrie, Escobar, Rasmus) and upgrading a below average farm? Again, in less than two years. We'd be ready to erect a statue for the guy (I'd be ready to suck him off).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 11:56 AM) A 3/4 day jumps him to .329. And I'm assuming an 0/4 drops Braun to around .327. Unlikely, but still doable for Kemp.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 11:29 AM) I find that really hard to see...unless they let Oswalt walk without picking up his option. Not to mention Hamels is about to get PAID after next season.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 10:47 AM) Baseball has ALWAYS been a game of stats, always. The criteria for induction into the Hall of Fame has always been stats. There might be a few exceptions, but that's how it's always been. You're confusing "the game" with the Hall of Fame. Yes. The baseball HOF gets on my nerves sometimes (I.E. Roberto Alomar not making it on his first try). But they almost always eventually get it right. Unlike the basketball HOF in which you simply had to have dribbled a ball at some point and you're in. Matter of fact, just as I typed this I think fathom just got voted into the basketball hall of fame. Congrats, fathom.

Holy s***. I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more pub. I didn't realize how close he was to leading all three categories.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 01:59 PM) Friedman, Daniels, Theo, KW, etc. all would make better movies. Friedman and Daniels both turned nothings into contenders. Theo and KW ended two of the longest sports droughts ever. It's Friedman at this point (with AA closing in). What he's been able to accomplish in that division defies any scientific logic. They draft better than any team in baseball, they've made multiple outstanding trades (Zobrist, Joyce, both Garza trades, Kazmir), they put a STRICT emphasis on defense (just check their UZR figures the last four years) and baserunning. Just an amazing organization and one that I truly envy.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 10:56 AM) STL is very much in play IMO. You keep saying this without any sound reasoning behind it. Next year's Cardinals rotation: Adam Wainwright: $9 million Chris Carpenter: $11 million Kyle Lohse: $12 millon Jake Westbrook: $8.5 million Jaime Garcia: arbitration eligible They've got two of the top pitching prospects in the game in Shelby Miller and Carlos Martinez (with the former being nearly big-league-ready). Lance Berkam was just re-upped for 1 year, $12 million. They've got a club option on Yadier Molina (he's going to get a nice raise). Then, of course, they have a 1B to worry about that's going to command upwards of $30 million a year. Suffice it to say, Mark Buehrle is nowhere near a priority for them at this point.

QUOTE (sunofgold @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:15 PM) This sucks. Get ready for 2012 Lil'dude Who can backup Paulie at 1B for the rest of the year. Really hate seeing Dunn on the field. Anybody to call up? Or use Vizquel at 1B sometimes? QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 05:44 PM) Love the little Dude And we have a match. Milk was right.