Jordan4life_2007

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 1, 2011 -> 03:53 PM) Thank you Captain Hindsight. No hindsight there. Not landing Miggy due to a pathetic farm system is a permanent black mark (one of many recently) on the organization as a whole.

lol I'll be good.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 1, 2011 -> 02:12 PM) You do realize that having a deep and talented farm system helps win, right?? Being able to replenish your team with young cost controlled players allows for bigger extensions or FA signings. Or you could trade prospects for players you want to fill holes (look at the Phillies). We handicap ourselves, whether that's JR or Kenny, we have no one to blame but ourselves. Go overslot, have better draft philosophy, develop better. There are way to many internal problems that hurt the Sox than external. Don't blame draft position, because other teams have shown that they acn have worst draft position than the Sox and succeed leaps and bounds over what the Sox do. And yes, we trade away prospects that go on to succeed, which wouldn't matter if the players we got back in return led us to a freaking playoff appearance (or better). *claps real slow* Don't know how one can look at teams like the Phillies, Braves, Red Sox, and more recently the Rays and Rangers (I can't believe the Rangers got Uehara AND Adams), and not grasp the multiple benefits of a productive farm.

Weaver vs Verlander today. That is quite stimulating.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 02:19 AM) Who? KW's garbage ass kid (from a baseball perspective). It really is true that it's not what you know but who you know.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 10:14 PM) There are some trouble signs already with Escobar. Today he really "lollygagged" to 1B and got thrown out by an eyelash. Instead of being embarassed he got thrown out when he wasn't busting it down the line, he ends up getting tossed by the first base umpire after about 5 seconds of argument. That's not the kind of play or example which was acceptable to the Braves organization. Look what has happened with the White Sox, KW and Guillen accepting/empowering/enabling Alex Rios for the past 12 months? There's just no way he can have the respect of any veteran in that clubhouse. Any goodwill or reserve he had left remaining in the tank was eroded tonight. And yet he's going to trot Rios out to CF again tomorrow. Is he really insane? The fans will eat him alive after tonight. There's no going back now. What a trainwreck. You don't get it. Let's say they all eventually fail for whatever reason(s). They're not going to cripple the franchise with a ridiculous contract that we simply cannot get rid of without eating at least 90% of the cash. I've got nothing left to say about Ozzie and KW. I hate them both. I hate them like I hate Justin Long. A horrible actor who makes millions for no reason.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 10:04 PM) Hell, Anthopoulos got rid of Vernon Wells. What more do you need to say about him? I don't like this. You've been agreeing with me all day. Tell the truth. You've been drinking. I know I have.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 09:57 PM) Just wait until Escobar, Lawrie and Rasmus all blow up in your face, J4L. It's too much like the KW philosophy. Taking talented players who may or may not fit together (and, who, for some reason are available because of injury concerns, nonperformance, stuck behind a player)...sometimes it works wonderfully, but it can also have disastrous results as we're seeing with Rios now. Unfortunately, all the good GMing that's represented by Danks/Floyd/Viciedo/Ramirez/Quentin/Humber/Santos has been completely undercut by Teahen/Linebrink/Dunn/Peavy/Rios, and, to a lesser extent, Juan Pierre. And the complete enigma that is Gordon Beckham....whoever you want to blame there. Blow up in my face? Going by WAR, Escobar has been the 4th best SS in baseball. What's Alex Gonzalez doing? Lawrie is one of the elite prospects in baseball. Rasmus has already proven himself to a degree and is oozing potential. And none of them are making $12 million a year for the next 18 years. AA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KW

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QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 09:38 PM) His velocity has been inconsistent His average fastball in his last start was 93.3/93.8 (FF/FT) topping out at 96.2, he hit 95+ 7 times out of 47 fastballs. In the start before that he was at 94.4/93.7 topping out 96.3 hitting 95+ 21 times out of 67 fastballs. Here's his velocity chart from fangraphs: Good stuff. I was too lazy to do the research on my own. That is a bit of a red flag. Well, if this is permanent, who cares. That's a good thing for us.

Outside of swapping KW with the best GM in baseball, Alex Asudfhfhfh, we're stuck with Rios forever.

Summer. 2009. I'll never forget.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 09:19 PM) Actually I think its the exact opposite. Basketball and football are far less fluky. The best team usually wins. In baseball with a pitcher, you basically have a different team every day. I've been very frustrated by the Sox this season, but giving up while 3 games behind the Detroit Tigers is cowardly. I was talking regular season. You don't have to be good to get into the playoffs in basketball and football. You can be under .500, actually. That doesn't happen in baseball.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 09:17 PM) Jimenez since 2010 All-Star break (not counting today): 35 GS, 216.2 IP, 4.03 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, 9.0 K/9, 8.2 H/9, 3.9 BB/9, 2.33 K/BB and his fastball is down from an average velocity of 96.1 last year to 93.4 this year. Hasn't Ubaldo's velocity increased the last month or so? I know it was down to start the season. But in the games I've seen of late he's been consistently poppin' 95.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 09:09 PM) They just took 4 out of 5 from the teams in front of them and are 1-1 against one of the best teams in baseball and have perhaps their best pitcher going tomorrow. Be real. One of the many great things about the sport of baseball is that you learn the truth over the course of 162 games. Basketball can be flukey. Football is definitely flukey. Baseball 9 times out of 10 tells you the truth. We're over 100 games into the season and we're still below .500. Yeah, 3 or 4 games back, etc. But there's just no way you can realistically look at this product and think playoff team. No way. Let alone actually doing something were they to back in. For me, I'm no longer waiting for this offense to snap out of it. Four months is enough. The worst possible scenario would be to stand pat, finish 80-82, and go into the offseason with nowhere near the same kinda leverage you have right now with legitimate contenders looking to upgrade.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 08:07 PM) well maybe thats not the right word but meaning if you know 95% ur trading him and u tell him and then u still want him to pitch like that? Rockies wanted more. They apparently called the Indians' bluff.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 08:03 PM) heymen just said the indians are getting a 4th player,hes gone. the rockies are so dumb for starting him Why are the Rockies dumb? The Indians are dumb for not getting this done sooner.

Maybe the Rockies are trying to make a point? Pomeranz AND White or else? lol.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 07:48 PM) With a man up in the pen. Hold on now. I've never seen this before. It's undenyable that something is happening with a man warming, I can't believe the Rockies are playing it like this, if you're hammering out a deal wouldn't you scratch him just as a precaution? This is getting weird now.

NO TRADE! Ubaldo is pitching.

Just saw Ubaldo sitting in the dugout. He would be warming up right now were he about to pitch, right?

I'm watching the Rockies/Padres game right now (Tulo just homered). Can't get any conformation yet.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 07:32 PM) Hard to argue that when Humber STILL has an ERA nearly a run lower in the AL. We'll see. Usually, long-term, the White Sox aren't wrong about pitching prospects. So far, they seem to be on Gio and Hudson. 2-3 years from now, we'll have a much better assessment. Humber has a lower ERA than Felix. Humber's mediocre peripherals and absurdly low BABIP were bound to bring him back to earth. I'm not hating on the guy. s***, we'd be 10 games out if not for his first-half. But I never thought he was the real deal.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 07:33 PM) Is Viciedo even a top 50 prospect? He's not viewed in the same light outside of the White Sox organization/fans.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 07:28 PM) Chalk it up to AJ sucking....Morel's bad luck and facing the best offense in the AL right now. Humber will be okay. Probably will end up as more of a 3.75-4.25 ERA guy, but that's exactly what Hudson would be with us. Hudson dwarfs Humber. Not to mention Humber is 5 years older.