Jordan4life_2007

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 07:04 PM) Teahan with a 2 run bomb. 4-0 Royals, top 4. Nice. Pudge goes yard. 4-1 Royals.

Question for Tiger fans: why are Guillien and Shelton hitting 5th and 8th in the lineup now?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 06:34 PM) Okay, well, when you prove that there's any predictive value in a guy hitting indoors or outdoors, then I'll put some credence into your 'stats'. Mmkay? Damn, I've been real snarky lately... Sorry about that, everyone. LOL. It's alright, man. I was thinking the same thing you were. I just chose not to respond.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 12:33 PM) I was all for a move to bring back Roberto to the South Side about a month ago. Then I actually looked at his numbers. April - 3.18 ERA 1.76 WHIP 11.1 IP May - 0.82 ERA 0.73 WHIP 11 IP June - 3.29 ERA 1.61 WHIP 13.2 IP July - 3.38 ERA 2.63 WHIP 2.2 IP He's not striking guys out at a high rate either - after taking out his month of May(while very good, it makes his numbers look much better than they actually are), his K/9 is a mediocre 5.54, and he's allowing baserunners on at a very high clip. That is friggin dangerous. I have a feeling some team is going to give up something of value for Hernandez, and that they are going to regret it within two weeks of trading for him. I just hope it is not Kenny Williams, and I have a good feeling it won't be. Flash is intriguing though. I like Flash. That would make the Sox pen probably the best in the majors, and in a year where bullpens are pretty much weak everywhere, a very strong bullpen would be very nice to have. I was another one who was in favor of trading for Hernandez. I'm not so sure now after lookin' at those splits.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 05:44 PM) lol Ponson to the Yanks. Watch now, he becomes a great pitcher, haha. No

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 03:12 PM) Congratulations to the NL Central champion St Loius Cardinals... I wouldn't count out the Astros. This is their time of the season. And, unlike the last two years, they're actually close enough to where another one of their prolific second half runs can net them a division title.

Jenks

The Royals are 15-9 in their last 24 games. So they are playing better baseball of late. Let's hope they help us out a little.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 12, 2006 -> 06:58 PM) Heath is a stud. This is the first chance I've had to see him. He's impressive. Anybody know how old he is again?

This has turned into a damn good thread. I've actually learned a few things. Good debating, people.

QUOTE(Damen @ Jul 12, 2006 -> 12:35 AM) Very true. His two slumps this year would have drawn much less attention if he were at least playing his position as competently as last year. By the way, does anyone disagree with this statement... Well, Pods being a very good player or not is strictly opinion. I think he's a solid player that can be very good when he gets hot, and can be very bad when he's cold. I do conceed that they're are a bunch of guys that I'd rather have over him. But s***, you could say that about anybody from the '05 team.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 11, 2006 -> 11:35 PM) I don't expect Ozuna's high numbers to continue in the 2nd half of this season, but that's JMHO. God forbid Ozuna comes back to earth (he will). Then will be talking about how Ozuna was a fluke and must be shipped out ASAP.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 11, 2006 -> 10:59 PM) GASP!! HAVE YOU NEVER PLAYED BASEBALL?!?! It's a long, skinny, incredibly light bat used for pre-game drills and such. The bat is specifically designed for infield and outfield practice, this way the coach can use an very light bat for better accuracy when hitting the ball and can swing it hundreds of times without tiring. Of course it's only designed for tossing the ball up and hitting it. Alright then. I know what you're talking about. Didn't know it was called a 'fungo' bat.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 11, 2006 -> 11:35 PM) LOL, he hasn't proven a damn thing. He's done the typical, "I don't understand any of these new-fangled stats" garbage that everyone always does (ie, "Don't think you can just throw out your latest Bill James p Again, chitown got it right a long time ago, and it pretty much went ignored. a.) Podsednik isn't a very good ballplayer. but b.) We don't have anybody else to replace him. and, on the bright side c.) He's not a total blackhole, as he's still getting on-base at a decent clip (.353 OBP -- better than last year), and he tends to see a lot of pitches. Again, this doesn't have anything to do with beyond 2006, but I don't mind Pods finishing out the year in LF. The reason, BTW, that this team hasn't been "optimal" yet (it's been great, but I think it can be better, which is a testemant to KW), is obviously 'cause "the greatest five man rotation in history" (ugh, Hawk) hasn't lived up to the billing... Arguing something is not the same as ignoring it. Again, nobody has claimed Pods to be great. I don't see the point of this entire thread to be honest. Iamshack has made some damn good points on what makes Pods a valuable asset to this particular team. You don't need stats for that. And let's be honest here, if not for Pods' defense, there would really be nothing to b**** about. His numbers are up across the board from a year ago.

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Jul 11, 2006 -> 11:20 PM) Iamshack, the point is that Podsednik isn't just bad at OPS, he's bad at almost everything, and the point of this thread was not to point out that he's JUST bad at OPS. He's terrible at OPS, RBI, HR, and even taking walks (an important stat for a leadoff hitter, wouldn't you agree) in comparison with OTHER LEADOFF hitters, which is even more pathetic. We're talking about other "set the table" guys who also happen to do things like stealing bases and scoring runs ALMOST as well as Pods, but are about 5-10 notches ahead of him in defense and in other offensive categories. Moreover, the things Podsednik DOES do well either aren't necessarily directly attributable to him (in the case of runs, which requires relying on the hitting of another player, as opposed to homers, rbis, and batting average which all are determined solely by the batter), or they aren't necessarily impactful on the game itself (in the case of steals, which AGAIN, unlike RBIs and HR don't impact the scoreboard immediately, if at all) Simply put, my point is that the s*** he does well doesn't matter that much, whereas the s*** he doesn't do well matters a whole lot more. How much longer are you and the rest of the Pods haters gonna continue to argue something that nobody is disputing? There hasn't been one person in this thread that's claimed Pods is great. There hasn't been a single person in this thread that said they wouldn't welcome an upgrade if possible. But to say that he's worthless, which is just incredibly stupid, is what guys like iamshack is disputing. You can take all your stats and slobber all over them if you want. Anybody could see that Pods is a valuable asset to this particular team. Nobody cares how he compares to Sizemore or Damon. That's a moot point. It's what he does for THIS team that matters.

Um, what the hell is a fungo bat?

iamshack is cleanin' house in this thread.

Some of these stat-freaks have way too much time on their hands.

QUOTE(Wanne @ Jul 11, 2006 -> 10:31 PM) I can actually say...this is the first time in my life I EVER got into an All Star game and actually gave a s***. And I think most of you would be lyin if you said otherwise. Huge hit by Paulie! Thank you Garner for bringing in Hoffman. Yeah, I guess this World Series homefield thing actually make it more intense for fans of teams that actually have a legitimate chance of getting there.

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Jul 11, 2006 -> 10:19 PM) Well there goes our shot at clinching a postseason series at home. Atleast the World Series.

Young MVP?

And that's a White Sox winner... Sort of.

Jenks?

Anybody feel like they were watching a Sox game? Poor NL.

This game blows.