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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 09:37 PM) I just hope we don't get the yearly quote from KW about the huge game changer that was so close. Well, we know he'll be blamed and not Hahn

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 09:23 PM) I can just see it now...miss out on Lawrie...then sign Cabrera to play 3rd It will be interesting if Indians get Lawrie for a very reasonable package

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 09:20 PM) The problem is the White Sox don't want to give up their best prospects so Frazier won't be a White Sox. At some point, assuming he just doesn't fall apart, some team will give Cincinatti Tim Anderson's equal or better. The White Sox really aren't in a position to do that. I like Anderson as a prospect more than most, but he's not a "can't miss" type guy. If he has that much value right now, I don't mind cashing him in.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:10 PM) This is the A's now putting pressure on the Sox to close the deal (as they also want to move on and thus are going to tell Sox...put up or shut up..we have other offers and aren't going to keep waiting while you see if you can pull Frazier). Or maybe now the Indians are back in on him after not getting Frazier?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:07 PM) If he can't field, there isn't much reason to have faith in him. Another version fixed for you

QUOTE (glangon @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:04 PM) Davidson, Avi and Webb. Get it done. Looks like 3 members of the 2019 Newark Bears

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 09:05 PM) For Frazier and Phillips, I would be ok with.... Anderson, Danish, Davidson, and Micah. I would hate to lose Micah, because I like him as a person and I LOVE his athleticism and skill, but we wouldn't have a spot for him, his defense is still suspect, and I feel like the Reds would love the idea of Billy Hamilton and Micah Johnson in the same lineup. That's an unbelievably amount of speed. Just seems like the organization lost all faith in Johnson.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 09:04 PM) Eh, I think that's a pretty steep price. If Cozart was in the deal as well to play SS, I might be fine with that. I don't know, that's a lot. Yeah, that's the extent I'd be comfortable, and realize it's an overpay. Sadly, everything seems to be an overpay now.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:00 PM) For Frazier and Phillips or just Frazier? C. Trent Rosecrans ‏@ctrent 4m4 minutes ago Word I’m hearing is #Reds are shopping Frazier heavily. Makes most sense at this point Frazier

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 09:27 PM) I've been wondering if part of the reasons for the impasses and these leaks are a combo of the Sox wanting the Reds to know they are close on something, so if they want to move Frazier at whatever the Sox price is, do it now or we will move in another direction. I'm also presuming A's want it out their to potentially see if other clubs want to swoop in. Maybe the Reds leaked the talk with the Indians to see if Hahn will increase his offer?

I would absolutely support an Anderson/Adams/M. Johnson deal

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:43 PM) You like that guy way too much. To me, it seems like too much of a risk for the Cubs to get him. It's not like they need more offense.

Teahen was the main guy the Sox got where everyone thought he'd hit for more power

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 05:42 PM) The questions is if you had your choice if we do land Lawrie would you rather Sign Upton, Sign Cespedes, Sign Gordon, or trade for Cargo? (Not going to include J Hey cause there is no chance) Personally I would be ecstatic if we traded for Lawrie to play 2B, sign the Japenese 3B, and sign J up. Although my ultimate pipe dream is landing Puig. Heck no to trading Cargo. Give me Upton

Great deal for Seattle

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 05:24 PM) Kenny williams gives zero f***s about prospects. If he wants someone he will burn it all down for them. Well, the good news about having a mediocre farm system is it never hurts too much when you get rid of someone. I can't believe how some seem upset about the possibility of losing someone like Beck, etc. Nice arm, but every organization has a few guys like that.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 05:24 PM) Cespedes yes, but now the Upton market is heating up. Giants, O's, and Angels all have been linked. Although, it looks like Giants are focusing in on Gordon. Everyone seems to be waiting on the Cardinals

QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 05:18 PM) While it is inconceivable on the surface to even fathom Olt getting a shot at 3rd, if a trade like this doesn't go down, then that's what we are looking at. All things being equal, Trayce getting a shot at CF is far likelier to happen then Olt getting a shot at 3rd base. There's really no reason to worry about the possibility of Olt starting next year at 3rd....unless the Sox trade for a super 3rd base prospect and hold him down for two weeks I heard that's Olt's favorite role.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 05:22 PM) If we are indeed close with Lawrie, I don't know how we are not being mentioned with any of the big OF bats in FA or in trade (CarGo) To be fair, almost no teams have been mentioned with the big bats. Amazing how quiet it's been with Cespedes and Upton.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:21 PM) If it got to the point of medicals, we would have heard Supposedly the Zobrist and Castro deals were done Monday night, but weren't announced until last night due to the medicals.

Brewers and Reds gonna battle for that #1 spot. Another season where Cardinals/Cubs/Pirates all will top 90 wins.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 05:33 PM) I see this impediment more as a sign the follow up moves to this are either falling through or not as progressing as fast as they anticipated when this leaked late last night. I think we see a few moves quickly. And I still think this is part of the plan Sox just don't want to announce it yet. And we aren't giving up Trayce for him either Maybe the Orioles going after Upton now puts some doubt into the plans?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 05:32 PM) Not surprised. I would imagine those names are Carlos Gonzalez and Todd Frazier Arenado

Susan SlusserVerified account ‏@susanslusser Sounds as if #WhiteSox not quite ready to pull the trigger on a Lawrie deal with #Athletics but sides still working on it.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 03:30 PM) Fathom convinces himself the cubs are going to sign every A flight player every off-season so that he feels better when it does not come through. All last season all we heard was Price to the cub...JS was going to go there to torment the Sox fans Signing Gordon would be a grave mistake for them which Lackey and Zobrist both were. They still need to figure out what Arrieta is going to make next year. Seems they're trying to trade Soler to open up a spot for Heyward Joel ShermanVerified account ‏@Joelsherman1 #Cubs finished 2d for Shelby Miller. Were willing to include Soler. But Atl liked #Diamondbacks deal too much to pass up