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QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 04:32 PM) It's all negotiations. The Sox and Konerko (Landis) just started talking in-depth Monday because prior to Paul felt it was in his best interest to shop his services. Then Dunn/AJ came back and things changed from his perspective. Negotiations are never simple. Paul doesn't have much leverage here because the market is pretty dry for him, but he and his agent are still playing this slow to try and get the best deal possible. Konerko went into the offseason thinking his time with the White Sox was done. KW and JR know this, which is why they made the public ploy about Dunn and AJP taking less money. PK is definitely not going to take any home town discounts, and if anything, we might have to pay some more money than the Dbacks would.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 05:00 PM) Cowley saying PK is asking for $15M per year. Good luck elsewhere PK.

QUOTE (sircaffey @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 12:31 AM) It'd be nice to have a bullpen so you can develop Sale as a SP. Because we are going to need that in 2012. The thing is, as much as we think that, it appears KW, Ozzie, and Cooper want him in the bullpen next year no matter what.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 12:25 AM) We went from Mark Kotsay to Adam Dunn. I just can't get upset about the bullpen right now. I totally agree.

For some reason, I can envision a Quentin for Matt Lindstrom and a prospect trade.

If the Sox weren't in contention, they would have shut down Santos in August for the season. He'll be fine, he'll learn how to pace himself through a 162 game season better. I'm not worried about the bullpen at all right now, as people are overpaying for bullpen pieces right now.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 10:54 PM) If Sale closes, who starts? Garcia is the 5th until Peavy's healthy. As much as I want Sale to start, I think that ship has sailed for next year.

I'll say this: the Sox know about any non-physical issues he might be having more than anyone else, so if they do bring him back, I'll trust that they're confident everything will work out.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 09:40 PM) And I'm not one to throw out these advanced stats too often, but for 2M a year, I think the Sox would be fools not to bring him back. But he'll get more than that from a team thinking he can still close. I think the Sox would be fools to bring him back as a closer.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 10:35 PM) Unlucky? It was that high because he was routinely getting hammered. It's not like Jenks was giving up a ton of soft hits. I'll tip my cap to our relievers, when they got hit, they got hit very hard.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 10:22 PM) Putz will be hard. Sox don't want to go long-term and he can get long-term deal. I think Jenks plus another guy come back, but that other guy might be someone we eventually trade for. Byrdak and Dotel are my guesses.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 09:21 PM) I disagree. Getting Jenks back at the right price isn't a bad thing. There are far worse things the Sox could do. Jenks has become very unreliable on the mound and with injuries. Also, don't discount the "off the field" difficulties the Sox had to deal with regarding Jenks last year that KW mentioned a month ago. I'd be shocked to see him back.

Lot of money to match for someone with some health issues the last few years. I think we can be creative and find someone on par with Putz for cheaper.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 09:03 PM) Looks like we're going to get Jenks back. I don't see that happening at all.

Tillman was too busy trying to take a cheap shot at an OL instead of staying in his lane on the Best run.

Heard on radio that Rangers are making a serious run at Konerko.

Great comeback by Rose to hopefully get this team going in the right direction again!

Bulls letting this game get away from them. Not time to panic yet, but this has been a very alarming week for them.

That 53 yard field goal by Nebraska was as pretty of a kick as you can imagine.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 5, 2010 -> 12:45 AM) Sale > Kelly I could even make a case that VIciedo has much better overall tools than Rizzo. This was not a good deal on paper as it stands right now for the Padres, imo. They got guys that will not be in the majors this year, two of which are incredibly raw and could very easily fail. Not sure who the 4th player is. But the Sox could have put this type of package together, imo. It doesn't mean I would have done it though, since we have less depth and that type of trade would have seriously impacted our current club and long-term future and I'm glad with dunn. As you know, Sale couldn't even be traded for a long time. Also, Padres already passed on Sale once, so who knows if they even like him.

Pretty sure Dunn had the longest average home run for quite a few years now.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 4, 2010 -> 08:44 PM) Wow. Jed Hoyer giving Boston a discount much? I gotta believe if we had wanted AGon, we could have matched that, even with our awful system. With our terrible farm system? Not a prayer. We have no one that compares to Kelly or Rizzo.

Harrison Barnes and T. Jones is a battle to see who can miss shots worse in this game. Irving is far and away the best freshman in this class.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 4, 2010 -> 06:06 PM) The way the computer is set up at my dads, I can't see the TV but I just turned it on so I can listen to Gus in the background, awesome. Just going to post that Gus lost it on Barnes' tip-dunk. I love Gus Johnson!!

I'd love Diaz as part of a platoon in RF if we trade Quentin.