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QUOTE(Friend of Nordhagen @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 10:31 PM) Apparently, when asked earlier today if Buehrle would be moved, KW said "not today." Who cares what he says. Also, maybe he thought the negotiations for the contract would be longer than they were.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 10:29 PM) KW wouldn't make a deal like that. He really needs to come away from this thing looking like he got one hell of a deal and Lowrie is not nearly good enough to get this deal done alone. I mean to come away from this thing without even receiving a top 100 prospect in return would be a complete disaster. Yep, trading Buehrle is different than any other player with the Sox. KW will have to be able to justify this trade to not only the smart fans, but to the dumb fans also. I just looked at Lowrie's numbers, and he's not very good. The more I think about it, the more I think we'll take a chance on Wily Mo. QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 10:29 PM) I think everything right now is just quick reactions to our suckage. KW will not make a quick move like this b/c he can't possibly get top value for MB or any others. He will wait, the only changes I see are more bullpen switches maybe Floyd up instead of Masset and Gonzo down and Sweeney up. All the posts being made now are in reaction to the Boston media reports.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 10:25 PM) What are you basing this on? He said that this was the year he wanted to be more hands-on. Yep, and then he went and drafted a pitcher he had never seen in person.

Just remember, if something did happen today, they might wait until the Red Sox game is over today. They're in the 7th inning.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 10:24 PM) Bingo. I really think an extended Buehrle could fetch that. But you know it will be Lowrie and some A ball reliever who throws hard.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 10:22 PM) Ellsbury + Bowden and I will get wood I hate trade proposals on message boards, but if you give Buehrle the negotiating window, then that's the type of trade we should be looking at.

I have a bad feeling that Lowrie would be the main guy in any trade. There's not a chance in hell you consider this trade unless Buchholz or Ellsbury is the main person in it.

Where are people seeing anything about the Boston radio reports?

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 10:08 PM) Ellsbury is leading off for the PawSox. I'll keep an eye to see if the lineup holds. No way they'd play him if they were actively negotiating today.

If you allow Buehrle to sign with the Red Sox right now, you better get a good package in return. I get so fearful with KW when it comes to trading for prospects. QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 10:07 PM) Another thing I would hate about trading Buehrle to Boston is having to face Buehrle in the playoffs in future season, assuming the White Sox make the playoffs again in my life time. Am I the only one that things Buehrle would PWN a good hitting Sox team. I wish we could get a good package from an NL team. Come on Braves!!! The last thing to worry about is how we'd match up with someone in the playoffs.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 09:44 PM) WHY? What has this kid ever done at any level (outside of 20 innings in the Mexican League) to warrant the rope that you people give him? His minor league numbers are mediocre to bad. He was put on Waivers in the middle of the '05 season about the same time we (re)claimed Ryan Wing. We found room for Wing, but not Masset. Then 18-20 months later, despite more mediocre-to-s***ty production, Masset is viewed by many (for reasons unknown) as a future starter and a centerpiece to the future of the club. Masset sucks. just like the other guys we've claimed since Jenks; Sierra, Wing, Tucker, all garbage. They need to send him to the minors to see if he can become a starter. It's pathetic he's been on the major league roster as long as he has been.

Ozzie in a suit during the PC...at least he looks healthier than he did a few days ago.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 09:27 PM) Yeah, season tickets are paid for. I hope they sell out every game for the rest of the season. Empty seats will not do a damn thing to help this team in the future. Exactly, it would only justify going younger and cheaper.

FWIW, Gammons is reporting the Red Sox won't trade Lester, Buccholz, or Bowden. If true, hang up the phone KW.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 09:19 PM) I wonder why no players have asked to be traded from this toilet of a team. Jermaine Dye said he didn't care what team he played for....that's as close to seeing someone say they don't mind getting traded as you'll ever see. This isn't the NBA.

Go Brewers! Thanks to everyone on the Sox who brought us 2005.

Mackowiak leads the world in game-ending outs. f*** this team....well done Ozzie!

Ha...that was pathetic. Only the Sox could call up a prospect who can't hit a fastball. Way to take the strikes and swing at the balls.

That was a perfect pitch to hit. Here comes the K.

What are the chances of a STRETCH tease here?

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 09:07 PM) I feel the need to break something myself. Anybody know where Ronnie Woo Woo lives? Did you check out the overpass near the Dan Ryan?

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 09:06 PM) WTF are you high on? There's no f***ing reason to trade him when his value is as low as it can go. If and when he turns it around he's secured for a respectable deal. Yep, either that, or you include him in a package along with someone like Buehrle or Contreras in order to get another higher prospect.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 09:05 PM) Maybe the sooner this game is over, the sooner they can announce some moves. Hold me, I'm frightened.

I never thought I'd be this calm after getting swept by the Cubs. Oh well....at least soxtalk is here for us to discuss things.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 09:04 PM) If Coop can't fix him, Rothchild will. He'd be throwing 96 mph again, but he'd hurt himself in no time.