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I'm throwing my full support behind the Rays. The thought of Brett Myers getting a ring makes me sick.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 20, 2008 -> 06:08 PM) Get outta Dodge. It's a much discussed proposal. Is it worth taking on the 5 years and $101,500,000 remaining on Barry Zito's deal if you don't have to give up much of anything to acquire him and they throw in Tim Lincecum?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 18, 2008 -> 01:42 PM) Peavy should command a whole hell of a lot. He's in his prime and signed to a well below market value contract. San Diego papers are saying it'll take 4 upper echelon major league ready type of prospects. The only thing "well below market value" about Jake Peavy's contract is the years (3), he's the 3rd highest paid pitcher in the history of the game in terms of average annual value of a multi-year deal at $17.333M. Count his $11M '09 team option and he's being paid $15.75M over the next 4 years which drops him to the 4th highest paid ever.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 20, 2008 -> 02:32 PM) Thanks. Any idea when this might be completed? It may already have been, it's such an unimportant deal that it probably won't even be reported. Some nothing minor leaguer of ours will show up in the Pirates system next year.

The Pirates for Franklyn German.

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 20, 2008 -> 02:42 AM) How about getting a youngster like Anibal Sanchez from Florida? Their rotation is pretty jam-packed. Ricky Nolasco Scott Olsen Josh Johnson Chris Volstad Andrew Miller Sanchez could be a new Gavin Floyd/Carlos Quentin for us. Send them a prospect like CJ Retherford. Scott Olsen is going to make something like $2.5M in arbitration next year, they'll dump his ass before the very very very cheap Anibal Sanchez (whom they actually f***ed over in 2007 when he got hurt just so they could keep him cheap.)

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Oct 19, 2008 -> 10:59 PM) Going to put this here for reference. -Dotel goes from 5Mil to 6Mil -Linebrink goes from 4 to 4.5 -MacDougal jumps from 1.95 to 2.65 -Thornton jumps from 875K to 1.325 -AJ jumps from 5.85 to 6.25 -Lexi goes from 950K to 1.1.(There are also bonuses in his deal, which I'm sure he met a bunch of them) -JD jumps from 9.5 to 11.5 -Swisher jumps from 3.5 to 5.3 I haven't even talked about ARB numbers. Right now, thats about 7 million in salary increase from next year, not counting ARB. Cabrera and Crede off the books is 14.1 million. \ Jenks is our only arbitration eligible player who's really guaranteed to be back next year and I'd say he's looking at a $3M pay raise (from $550K to ~$3.5M) so that's about $10M in salary increases from last season. Assuming the Sox pay Thome say $7.5M we're looking at $96.625M tied up in 14 players ($98.875M in 15 players if they bring back Toby.)

QUOTE (joeynach @ Oct 18, 2008 -> 06:17 PM) I think your kidding yourself if you think Lowe or Sheets will be affordable. Both are likely to command 13-15 mil per year over 4-5 years. Remember Vazquez and his 4.5ish era gets 11.5M, Lily and his 4.2 era gets $12M, etc. The 36 year old Lowe will probably get a 3 year deal around what Jason Schmidt got last offseason, 3 years $47M. If I had to guess I'd say Lowe gets 3 years, $42M with maybe a vesting/team option for a 4th year (though Boras doesn't like to include options) at $14.5/$15M and a $3M buyout. ($45M guaranteed) Sheets should get 4 or 5 years at around $13-$16M per. Even with his major durability issues he's a 30 year old with #1 type stuff. Think AJ Burnett's '06 deal (5 years, $55M) adjusted for Sheets' superior resume and the current market. If I had to guess on Sheets I'd say 4 years, $60M with a vesting option for a 5th and a $4M buyout. ($64M guaranteed)

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 19, 2008 -> 08:01 AM) I thought there was a rumor he might retire. He said last week that he wants to keep playing.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Oct 19, 2008 -> 09:54 AM) He'll go to the Yankees or Angels IMHO. And I'd probably stay away from him either way. He'll want a 5-6 year deal at least, which JR never gives out to a starting pitcher, and he's thrown a lot of innings in the past few years. He'll get 7 years. I want nothing to do with him, that would be an irresponsible singing.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Oct 17, 2008 -> 07:31 PM) I think doing it for Bears games would be virtually impossible. Not alot of people have orange coats. A 60,000 person crowd, all wearing solid blaze orange hunting jackets could be the coolest (color)-out ever.

QUOTE (VAfan @ Oct 17, 2008 -> 07:57 PM) All these names for second base, and no mention of ... BRIAN ROBERTS ????????? He's at least worth being in the discussion. Solves the leadoff problem. Gives us a true base stealer. Better defensively at second than Ramirez. He's perfect, really. The issues are 1) availability, and 2) cost. Maybe those couldn't be solved. But this option should at least be considered. The names Brian Roberts and Orlando Hudson get thrown around in every single thread. I believe the purpose of this thread was to think outside the freaking box instead of just regurgitating the same names over and over.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 14, 2008 -> 08:11 PM) The emergence of Longoria is crazy...reminds me of Braun last year, except that instead of not being able to play defense, Longoria plays ridiculous defense. It's exciting to think of what he could become, Major League Baseball should be quite entertaining in the coming years.

So Longoria's 5 HR is a rookie postseason record and he could easily end up playing in 7-10 more games.

Anyone on here still believe Alexei Ramirez was the best rookie in the AL this year? Evan Longoria is a monster. 5 HR in less than 8 postseason games as a freaking 22 year old.

If this team wasn't in desperate need of speed and already inundated with a plethora of power hitting plodders I'd feel compelled to mention Dan Uggla as a possibility. 29 years old, slow, bad defensively, not a good contact hitter, strikes out a lot (he'd actually fit in perfectly) but has a career .831 OPS, is a two time 30 HR hitter and has proven to be quite durable. He's one of 17 arbitration eligible players on a team who's payroll didn't even top $22M last year so there's a good chance he'll be traded. But I know, not a good fit for many, many reasons. (the asking price being number 1 or 1a)

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 11, 2008 -> 12:16 AM) I'm surprised the sight of Dotel the last six weeks hasn't soured him on you at all. I could not stomach his implosions. He's definitely not one of my favorites. I do realize once in a while he'd strike out the side and look unhittable. But his suckiness on several occasions down the stretch I felt was unacceptable for a team fighting for postseason berth and postseason success. I broke this down a few weeks ago, you seemed to accept it at the time but I guess that wore of: his arm was about to fall off. He hadn't thrown more than 30 innings in 4 years, was coming off ligament replacement surgery and shockingly it seemed to bother him at about the 51 inning mark when he lost the ability to throw a slider. When I look at the data available (like the fact that Dotel was great through his first 50 innings this year) I see 2008 as a good year for Dotel, you can come to whatever conclusion you want. I'm done trying to convince you otherwise.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 10, 2008 -> 10:50 PM) But worth the money? My god has baseball dipped in pitching talent if that's the case. I agree I'd be happy with Dotel if Oz has him on a one batter presentation. If that batter slams a double or OD walks the batter ... TAKE HIM OUT! Cause the bad Dotel is a trainwreck to see. Yes he's worth the damn money. $5M for a middle reliever who's going to increase your chances of victory 75% of the time is an incredibly valuable commodity to have. Maybe you don't have a full grasp on the finances of the game (Chad Bradford, a ROOGY is going to make $3.5M next year), perhaps you didn't see many Sox games this year and Dotel happened to be bad in all the games you watched or maybe you're looking at different stats than I but Octavio Dotel earned his pay this year and to call him an overpaid bum (as you did in another thread) is just ridiculous.

That's kind of funny because last night's episode was by far the worst in the show's history.

Manny hit another HR, the only problem is Billingsley s*** the bed. Oh and that f*** face piece of s*** Brett Myers is 3-3.

"Sunny" was really bad tonight. The final 8 minutes are so really dragged and the subject matter was just unfunny. That show is headed in an odd direction.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Oct 9, 2008 -> 09:03 PM) Lowe is making himself a s***load of money. And Chase Utley with the great big "f*** YOU!" Between Lowe and Manny Scott Boras is going to make an awful lot of money this offseason just off Dodgers alone.

Manny Ramirez is some kind of hitter. Missed a 2 run homer in the first by about 8 inches. Hit it halfway up the high wall in dead centerfield.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Oct 9, 2008 -> 05:57 PM) So I guess everybody was REEEEEEEALLY happy with Thornton in the closers role when Bobby was out for a while. Hmmmm...I seem to recall most said he didn't have the "closers mentality"...which I agree with. Why even consider trading Bobby unless you're in total rebuild mode? During Bobby's absence Matt Thornton got 1 save opportunity and converted it successfully, getting the one out necessary to record the save. Not a single time during Jenks' absence did Matt Thornton start the final inning of a ballgame in which the White Sox had the lead (the standard save situation). He pitched mainly in the 7th and 8th inning during that stretch including some work in the 9th of a tied ballgame. Hell Matt Thornton pitched in much bigger situations over the final month of the season than he did in Jenks' absence and kicked ass. By my count there were only 5 save opportunities during Jenks' absence. Thornton, Dotel and Linebrink all recorded 1 save each and Linebrink blew 2 more. If anyone came to the conclusion that Matt Thornton didn't have the "closer's mentality" during the 16 games Bobby Jenks missed in July (in which Matt Thornton had 1 save opportunity) then they're fooling themselves.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 9, 2008 -> 03:45 PM) Hey let's shop half of our sure things in the bullpen. Because, you know, we proved having 2 good bullpen arms was way too many this year. Also, ignore Thorton's career 26% save percentage. Garbage stat for non-closers. The best setup men in the game (setup men, not closers, this is important) are going to have s*** SV%. A setup guy will not record many saves because generally, he will not be the one finishing off the game. Yet anytime he relinquishes a lead he's going to get a blown save. So very few opportunities to record a save combined with tons of opportunities to blow a save means we have a very skewed statistic. Tell me, how often does Jenks blow a save like this. (take a look at the bottom of the 7th, that's a blown save)