southsideirish71

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 02:32 PM) they rank near the bottom of the MLB in attendance however. I dont think their payroll will increase significantly. Secondly, we still have the best record in the AL, how many times has a GM or Manager been fired over that? If we were in our division last year with this record, would you still be calling for the same thing? I dont think KW will or should be fired. I think the only mistake he made was not having a vet on the bench to keep Ozzie "semi-grounded". Not having Nossek or someone like him on the bench is a big big f*** up. Torborg would of been nice on the bench next to Ozzie. This is something new for Ozzie this managing thing, and he has noone to lean on for advise or experience. I would like to see our hitting coach fired. I would like to see someone who preaches a hit down on the ball, line drive approach over what we have. Everyone that comes here, magically has their power numbers jump and their BA goes down. I would like to see this come from outside of the organization. Get someone who can teach the mechanics of a line drive swing. The indians have nice line drive swings. You are less likely to slump with line drive swings that the dip your back shoulder and launch method we have had for the last few years. Get rid of Walker, hire Torborg as a bench coach and let sleepy baines retire or sleep somewhere else in the organization.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 02:25 PM) OK now THIS is extreme. If the Sox flame out we fire KW. I was no fan of his until this year. I look at it this way: what they did, everybody hated. Oh, you guys are doomed by giving away Lee and Mags! Small ball will never work! And lo and behold we were the best team in baseball and in first place all year until at least the last two weeks. Sounds like they got it half right: pitching/defense, check. Offense--ouch! But what do you do? Crede is a great 3B but his bat sucks? Uribe is an awesome SS but he's been underwhelming. Rowand was his own ESPN highlight reel in CF but his bat has been awful. So do you dump the solid defenders in hope of better bats? That's a tough call. How many of you honestly thought we'd turn it around this fast? I thought it'd be a couple of years for the "Ozzie ball" to take hold. I didn't think we would dominate like we did until we started to run out of gas. I won't be calling for anybody's head until after next season, if nothing changes. We lost over the last few years because of a lack of an option at the 5 starter and problems in the bullpen. If you take this pitching staff and insert them on those teams 2003, 2004 they run away with the division.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 02:23 PM) Exactly. For all those saying it wasn't KW's fault there was nothing of significance done at the deadline because the price was too high, KW's options were to overpay and improve the team's chances, or acquire Geoff Blum and hope the Sox got real lucky. Its beginning to look like he made the wrong decision. I'm sick of waiting till next year, JR should be too. If the collapse occurs and the Sox miss the playoffs, KW and OG should be sent packing. They won't obviously, but if this season turns into failure, it won't bode well on the White Sox immediate future. Also FWIW,KW has been given the luxury of the highest payroll in the division, so money isn't an excuse Think of the revenue that the Injuns will bring in after having a 41 million dollar payroll this year and making the playoffs. Trust me Shapiro will spend to add more to that team. The indians used to have one of the highest payrolls in baseball.

QUOTE(S720 @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 02:22 PM) Can teams legally do that? Move the fences in and out to their discretion. Obviously they moved them in before.

They need to do something about the ease of the ball flying out of the park at the cell. Either move the fences back or something. They moved the fences in when they had the team that mashed the ball to death, now we completely change our formula and having the fences so close is a bad thing. It makes our hitters stupid at times.

Sox hitters, when you have men on in scoring position and the game is on the line. HIT THE f***ING BALL No more bat slamming, swearing at the bat, or doing the "Oops I shat my pants with the game on the line thing that paulie is doing below" Pitch like you care, Hit like you have balls, and end this f***ing game with a white sox winner. NO EXCUSES, JUST VICTORY

I was very proud to be part of the "CLEVELAND SUCKS, CLEVELAND SUCKS, CLEVELAND SUCKS" chants in the upper deck.

QUOTE(mmmmmbeeer @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) This team is f***ing doomed with this leadership. 09/19/2005 9:02 PM ET Notes: Jenks, Marte to close 'Closer by situation' dictated by Hermanson's sore back http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...t=.jsp&c_id=cws This was posted on whitesox.com right about the time Marte was blowing the game. Marte's ERA is now 3.71 with a 1.65WHIP. vs Neal Cotts ERA at 1.92 and a .1.03WHIP Does Ozzie even look at stats.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) You must adopt the Rally Crede as your saviour for all that is Soxy and good. We wouldnt need Rally Crede's if Joe Nossek was still here to help balance the insanity. Marte in a key situation. you have got to be f***ing kidding me, Caution all the Rally Crede's cannot overcome stupid managerial moves.

QUOTE(SouthSidePride05 @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 11:10 AM) Did you hear Hawk comment on how unusually quiet the crowd was? I was thinking it was very loud with a lot of electricity, and then Hawk says something like that?? Sox fans have been bashed year in and year out, and now our very own Hawk is b****ing about a quiet crowd, when it was obviously not?? That pissed me off. Then 3 times he got way ahead of himself, and called it wrong: Twice he says "Waaay back.. Stretch..Stretch..".. and the ball is caught 20 feet in front of the warning track. and then before Podsednik caught the ball which was almost a homerun, Hawk says "that's gone". I usually like Hawk and DJ, but last night was so freakin frustrating listening to Hawk. And to top it off, before the game was even finished, while the ball was in the air, Hawk says "Mark Buehrle vs Westbrook"... Hawk needs to shut the f*** up. When you go down 4 runs quickly it will quiet the place down. Only a f***ing moron would be real loud after going down 4-0 real quick. When they rallied that place was rocking. When Carl hit the big homer, the place was nuts.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 10:37 AM) should've came down and sat with my crew! we all love pic whores Every site needs a pic whore. LOL. I had injun fans in front of me, and injun fans in back of me. It f***ing sucked.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) Are you going tonight or can we expect your presence in the chat? I will be in chat tonight. I cant stomach going down there again to deal with the f***ing injun fans in the upper deck again.

I am still in, I went to the f***ing park last night by myself to go and see this team.

If they blow this and dont make the playoffs, Brooks will have a hard time marketting this team for tickets. So sad, if they had kept winning, cruised into the playoffs and won a series they would of had more season ticket holders. If they blow this, it will be tumbleweed city out there.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 08:45 AM) Jenks never got a fastball up to Boone. Boone has been a dead pull hitter all season and I'll bet the book on him is to stay away, away away. The difference between Jenks striking out Boone and giving up that hit was six inches. Had that ball been elevated in the strike zone he would've grabbed some bench. They never have jenks elevate the ball. On two strikes how hard is it to catch up to above belt heat.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Sep 19, 2005 -> 11:29 PM) Cleveland has really impressed me, much as it pains me to say it. They clearly want this division a lot more than we do. The differences in the offenses are easy to see. The indians hitters are aggressive, they get hitters counts, and then hit nice crisp line drives. This is why their hitters have good averages. We hit some line drives also, but our hitters fouled off a ton of good pitches to hit, they popped up over and over. Its hard to popup a sinkerball pitcher, but we found ways. We need to find hitters who hit down on the ball. Have line drive swings. This popup baseball s*** has got to end. We had some line drives in key situations tonight, but we also had plenty of games with men on in scoring position only to watch the popups fly in the air.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Sep 19, 2005 -> 11:24 PM) NOoo, 2 is not enough, remember we still have 4 with Minn who will throw out Santana which means at least 1 loss that series. The goal should be 4 and 3 is pushing it. We will face liriano, baker, santana and lohse in the series. We got 2 hit by baker, santana owns us like a dirty b****, and we barely hit lohse. That leaves Liriano who hits 97, is a lefty, has a good changeup, and is someone we have never seen. Pray we hold on for the wild card.

Its time to hit this. Its also time to hope for the wild card.

Bill Melton is a fool. Well Marte pitched well over the weekend is the argument. Billy, he pitched against the twins. The same twins who cant hit. I could probably get a few of their hitters out and its been 7 years since i toed the rubber.

Well I wasted my time and money going to this f***ed up game. The first prize was sitting in front of a few indians fans, 3 teenage boys and their mother. The mother was the problem. She was so f***ing annoying. Then I watch Freddy s*** the bed. Big pitcher for big games my ass. Every pitch was up in the zone, and he was behind every batter. f***up number one is when Ozzie lets Freddy start an inning off later in the game after throwing over 100 pitches and just giving up a dong to hafner a few innings before. They were hitting line drives all over. I couldnt believe he used Jizzcan over Politte. That was f***up number one. Then he brings in marte. The annoying lady off course informed her kids, this guy has mental problems and cant throw strikes. Marte then s***s the bed. He has not been able to get lefties out at all this year. So ozzie lets him walk one, then give up a double and then leaves him in. Ozzie has no clue. Why is cotts not being used as the primary setup lefty. No we have the mental case doing this. Cotts at least gives you a shot. Why is Jizzcan in as our primary setup righty. What happened to politte.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Sep 19, 2005 -> 03:30 PM) buster is a nickname. The chat room has had his real name before but I can't remember what it is His real name is Bugsy

I picked up a single ticket, best available last night. It was section 510. They should have plenty for this game.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Sep 19, 2005 -> 07:53 AM) That comment pretty much describes my opinion of if Mark should start game one of the playoffs...he obviously doesn't want the ball, so by all means give it to the count. I took the quote a different way. I am sure he wants the ball in game one, but for the ace of the staff to put his ego aside to put the best pitcher(hotest in the 2nd half) on the mound in game one is pretty amazing.

Mark Buerhle said after that game that he doesnt care what anyone says, the count should start game one in the playoffs.