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QUOTE (bear_brian @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 07:48 PM) That means 3 year, $12M per year. That's why I said IF .Most people would've phrased that 3/36 or put the PER year in there.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 07:23 PM) .287 avg .346 obp 25 homers...guy quietly put together a great year I really wonder what Semien would do if given the LF job based on his 2nd half call up. Seems to me he's capable of 20HR and a good OBP. Trouble is we didn't see him in the OF at all after that call up even though he got time in the OF in the minors after he was sent down.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) The Dodgers thank you and are trying to hold back their laughter. So is McCarthy's agent if 3years $12M means only $4M a year. He'll easily get double that.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 03:02 PM) Look at Diaz' splits last year, at AAA: http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?playe...ing/2014/MINORS That was very good production vs. RHP, for a SS. If he is a good defender, he should definitely be in the mix, if Alexei is traded. Used to be a switch hitter, might've given up on it but yes horrid against lefties. Very good against righties.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 01:51 PM) This is the best info on his defense that I can find: http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/gett...-loving-gloves/ It's from last month and states: " has a plus arm he used to lead Pacific Coast League shortstops in assists (325), putouts (156) and double plays (70)". I'm guessing being as big as he is 6'4" 220 he doesn't quite have the range to be an elite SS as he was -17 below league average for assists. There may be other factors such as a pitching staff that doesn't induce ground balls. Big arm though but also seemed like he makes a decent amount of errors, usually 20+ playing full time. This is all just a deduction from the stats on my part.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 02:03 PM) This is all speculation, but Diaz is 30 I think, had a brief stint in the majors a few years back..he's a AAA player. And we know that L Garcia can field the position so I don't see Diaz with any real chance. If Semien can handle the position defensively, fantastic. I thought Sanchez was a SS more than a 2B. Maybe I'm wrong there. 25

Do Joe Savery ,Logan Kensing and Juan Diaz count as our next move ? BTW Diaz is a SS http://m.indians.mlb.com/news/article/4194...spring-training from over a year ago but tells you some things about him. Big guy for a SS cannon arm. Precursor of an Alexei trade ? Spent last year in the PCL (AAA) http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_...ameType=%27R%27

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 08:28 AM) All the reports I've read said they would prefer to trade Kemp simply because they should be able to get a good return vs what would most likely be a salary dump/bad contract for bad contract deal when it comes to trading Ethier/Crawford. I think Kemp gets traded and it wouldn't shock me if it's to the White Sox....It also wouldn't shock me if some other team comes along and offers up better than the Lexi+ package we would have to offer. I don't know man. Losing Hanley and Kemp would really zap their RH power and would (temporarily) leave them with the all LH OF of Pederson, Crawford and Ethier .Van Slyke is RH. Pretty much only Puig and ancient Uribe would have any RH pop.

Hey guess who had the same OBP as our beloved leadoff hitter. Yep Adam LaRoche. Hey guess who was 7th in MLB in GWRBI . Yep Adam LaRoche with 17.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 08:44 PM) Holy sh!t. And they are concerned about getting below 190M to avoid luxury taxes? Have I missed something? Well of that $8.35B $1.9B goes for revenue sharing and the renovation of Dodger stadium in just it's initial stage cost $100M . Then there's a bit over $600M in player salaries of which they pay the luxury tax per year depending on how much above the ceiling they are.

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 08:04 PM) yeah but lets put it this way. the Dodgers TV deal is what at least 50+ mil per yr. i really think it is more, but for this, they are getting a crap load of money. subtract from the total salary per, and it is a affordable to go really crazy on fa's. it was kind of funny on how big george of the yanks thought he could buy his yearly WS ring. he only won once in the a certain time span. The Dodgers TV deal was estimated between $8.35-8.8B (yes billion) for 25 years. If I use the low figure (8.35 ) and divide it by 25 unless I put too many zero's on the calculator it comes to around $340M per year which I think they have to give $80M of that to MLB for revenue sharing.

QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:24 PM) Hahn still hasn't acquired the player they were close to getting at the trade deadline. With that said, I'm going to predict the Chicago duo of Gregorson and Gorzelanny are next. I also think another reliever is next. Kemp is overkill in the lineup when we still need pitching in the rotation and the pen. Dodgers will try like hell to move Ethier and Crawford before Kemp . They want to keep Kemp. Might take awhile for Dodger to work a deal to get rid of who they want , fielding offers and paying as little of their salary's as they can. Could be Saunders from Seattle ,could be Melky , If Alexei is traded doubtful its for anything but pitching (Mets )unless Hahn waits it out to see how successful the Dodgers are at thinning their OF mess . My long shot bet Francisco Rodriguez.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 09:05 AM) I like that you're shooting for the stars man. To be honest, if I had Bruce, Cueto, Chapman + C ( guessing you mean Tucker Barnhart) ; I would not trade them for Q. If Jocketty went loco and offered up all four of them along with an extension for Cueto, I would drive Q to Cincinnati personally. I said the same names earlier in the thread because if you factor in Bruce's down year and Cueto FA next year and Chapman the year after that Bruce is also a FA in 2017 . So it's 2 years of Bruce and Chapman and 1 for Cueto for a total of 5 years for 3 players for 2016 nd 2017 . Now I know if they go for a total rebuild with separate trades they could get a boatload of prospects . That's the part of baseball that I never quite get . Why trade great prospects for guys who have only a year or 2 left before FA ? Ok 2 years is better but 1 year sucks . For legit contenders at trade deadline it's more understandable but Q's talent and contract outweigh a lot of things .I surely wouldn't move him for both Latos and Leake because they are both FA in 2016 assuming you can't extend either one. There aren't too many instances of extensions signed after a trade with players facing free agency. Even if the Sox were in rental mode like Veeck used to do they'd still have to give up prospects which isn't happening unless some team see's more value than most of us do in our crowded MI situation or Hector Noesi.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 10:38 AM) Right, it's not like guys typically hit their primes in their late 20's. I remember saying to get Melky when he was on the Yankees before the whole steroid thing. I didn't have a lot of support on that one but thats the nature of suggesting anyone.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 07:16 PM) The Sox have more money to spare than minor league talent so FA would be the best place to grab a closer,IMO. Maybe the Sox are one of the teams that have an offer out to Miller? The Reds are looking for prospects, the Sox are still building their farm so its really not a match. I know but having him would be sweet. Abreu needs another home boy if Alexei and Tank get moved.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 06:25 PM) Thing is that Q's huge value lies not only in his stats but his age plus his long term control plus his cheap salary. Also, as another poster mentioned, Q has a higher WAR going for him. Q genuinely has higher value than Bruce. RE: body. Yeah I stole the idea from a man named BrickTop. Smart fella that Brick Top. We do need a closer and if you are rebuilding as it appears the Reds are doing then 2 years of Chapman for the same AAV we just gave Duke seems good. Just have to figure out what it would take to land Chapman though the Reds could probably get a really decent haul for him.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 06:19 PM) We got our Dunn back! Heck, I like this. They want to be competitive. Beats a trade. And we needed someone to spell Abreu at first as well. Those heels got chippy. Rather have seen the 4 rotating OF's to give Eaton more rest and keep Avi out of the OF more often but as long as he doesn't turn into Dunn 2.0 I'm good with them filling another need. I said earlier that I didn't trust Ventuna to sit LaRoche against LH pitching but he'll pretty much have to considering his age and badness against lefties. BTW La Roche means " the rock " in french . Bienvenue LaRoche

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 06:34 AM) On the free agent market right now Quintana would get a similar contract to where Lester is looking at, in the 7/$150 range or more. Your numbers are about 1/2 of what it would actually cost to replace him. Adam Dunn is just wearing a Jay Bruce costume. Beware of .250 hitters with high K totals coming from the NL to the AL unless we get Cueto (FA in 2016) and Chapman (FA in 2017) also straight up for Q (OK throw in Viciedo)

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 04:16 PM) http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/11/pira...on-cabrera.html http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=1B Ok, I know, he hasn't been "good." But, even though he's been replacement-level-ish when you factor in everything, he's only had one season where his bat was below average. He walks a lot and -- get this -- doesn't strike out a lot. His K rates have been around league average, and were actually below league average last year. He's basically been like Adam Dunn in terms of total production, but getting there with less power and MUCH fewer strikeouts, too. His not-so-good year last year was characterized by a really low BABIP, and he still managed a 108 wRC+. I don't know. The pro is that he'd basically be free, but the con is opportunity cost. If you got him, would you then give up on someone like LaRoche? Maybe not -- he's only going to cost like $4m or something, so you could theoretically acquire him and just DFA him if you land a bigger fish. This might be a better "insurance policy" than paying Viciedo the same salary. This would be a much cheaper alternative to an old DH, but his performance is obviously riskier. But if you think that the Sox really aren't ready to "push in" this year, it wouldn't be the worst idea in the world to play for some upside in 2015. I mean, you can argue that it should be easy to go and get a DH next year if the team is a piece or two away going into 2016. What do you think? Savvy or just "settling"? I like Ike. Sorry just wanted to say that and see if any of the youngsters know what it means. Heck it was 6/7 years before I was born when that sayng became popular. Too early for Mr. Davis unless it's a minor league deal . Still have the major pieces to add . But after that the Sox can look fore spare parts and what they will get paid. I like "Crash" Davis too . Is he available ?

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 07:10 PM) Suggesting the addition of Ethier and Rasmus is...poor judgment, imo. So please give us all your good judgement besidees Melky for DH ? Starting pitching? Relief pitching ? payroll ? International signings ? Compete year ? Give up draft choices ? Trade minor leaguers ? It's quite disheartening seeing every suggestion shot down "I wouldn't give so and so more than X dollars for X years blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda . Seems to me nothing would get resolved among our fine posters except say no to all FA 's because of PEDS , their daddy is a problem, too old , coming off a bad year , bad idea, coming off a good year , bad idea. You all have paralysis by analysis. Sorry Andy didn't aim this at you in particular but there are a lot of risks involved and you take your best shot based on past and upside and defense taking as much into consideration as possible and then it's "poor judgment" while 90% of the naysayers never have a plan of their own just some vague idea of how much the Sox have to spend and what everyone fairly deserves on the FA agent market. FA is like the draft. Its crap shoot and when it isn't you pay the highest amount and many years for the best players which turns that into an even bigger mess of a crapshoot. You pay the piper in one way or another eventually .

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 06:22 PM) His floor is so much higher than Adam Dunn it isn't even funny. Plus he can actually play in the field. Dunn's floor was in the sub sub basement . I don't even know who you're talking about. Cabrera ? because pretty much anyone but Leury Garcia has a floor higher than Dunn's .

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 06:56 PM) Call me skepical of this"inside source". Rock, I believe.20 minutes afte mlbtraderumors comes up with Jay Bruce being available, this comes up. I would bet my home the White Sox wouldn't offer Q straight up for Bruce, let alome Q+. He is playing you guys. On the flip side if its a legit source maybe he can't say anything until the national media gets it first in order to protect a source or something along those lines.

From B/R : Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports has the report: The Reds also have engaged in preliminary discussions on deals involving two-time All-Star right fielder Jay Bruce, according to major-league sources. And though club officials say the team is merely listening on players rather than shopping them, a trade of Bruce for more cost-effective talent would be a major step toward retooling with a lower payroll in 2015.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 06:41 PM) Would anybody do Avi, Semien, and Montas for Bruce? That would sure be selling low on Avi We don't even know what we have in him yet. It's possible he 's better then Bruce this year . Way too many potentially impactful youngsters with years of control for Bruce.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 06:35 PM) Or he lands a RHP along with JB... That would be selling hign on Q and that's really high with his last 2 years and very team friendly contract. Bruce coming off a disaster of a year buying low even if the Reds don't see it that way. Sounds like a blockbuster and difficult to pull off. Stay tuned.