CaliSoxFanViaSWside

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 05:06 PM) It's in this story: http://sbnation.com/e/6981062 Short meaning 5-7 yrs according to the article saying he had turned down an 8 yr offer already.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 07:41 AM) I don't even think its going to be a JR issue. He's willing to spend. The real problem is throwing away the next two years of amateur LatAm signings - which I don't think Hahn or KW are willing to do, just when that pipeline has started working again. If all the truly elite talent is snatched up for over the limit doesn't the signing period then just become a huge crapshoot betting on 16 yrs olds and how they develope ?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 12:55 PM) Nope, Soxtalk scooped him first. Haha ! I put it in another thread thinking " not worth a thread on a guy who we can hardly begin to speculate how his numbers will translate" so someone else starts the thread a day or 2 later.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 12:50 PM) Close! It crossed my mind then I thought " no way will I be the one to mention it".

So anyway, he got a 4th year which I suspected would be the case all along. Knew the Sox chances of getting him were slim . So on to the signings of Melky (VMart-lite with defense) , Colby w/e relievers we end up with and stabs in the dark at finding another quality starter or bargain basement hope and a prayer starter. Might even get Butler and Aoki . Oh joy.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 03:35 PM) We are getting six years of Abreu for the price of a 36-39 year old Victor Martinez. #WinHahn That's not quite true is it ? After 2017 he can elect arbritration right ? So if he does that his salary can explode.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 08:28 PM) I would not be surprised if some local writers look in on this site. Its a great way to get some insight to what Sox fans are thinking so writers can turn around and write what the fans want to hear about. I'm always kind of surprised the quests browsing the forum seem to always outnumber the members whenever I look . Like now even though its late in Chicago 36 people browsing the forum 28 of which are guests.

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 07:53 PM) i was catching up on news with regards to baseball. I used to hear how some believe what is being said here was making it to the press. I was a little skeptical. now I am here to apologize. I saw where things we discuss today was being phrase on the article. I mean its almost the same. it is too much of a coincidence Can you be more specific. ?Not sure what you're talking about.

QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 07:46 PM) Red Sox looking to re-sign Lester http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/pos...ter-will-return Heard on MLB Network that an unknown tean offered Billy Butler 3years $30M. Any thing on twitter about this ?

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 12:20 PM) a great point esp if there are a mix of lefty and righty. has any team ever use the dh as a rotating position ???? The Sox did when they didnt resign Thome and went with Kotsay instead. Other teams do it I just don't know which ones. But say we sign Rasmus and Melky and we have Avi and Eaton. That's 2 lefties, a rightie and a switch hitter and since you face mostly RH'ed pitching we 'd have 3 lefties automatically in the lineup , Against lefties Rasmus can sit or Eaton depending one who needs the rest more. Keeps them all fresher ,hopefully more productive . It would also mean a defensive upgrade and the end of Tank in a Sox uni to the joy of all.

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 11:51 AM) and if necessary I would think DH as well. thanks That's what I meant for "and the bench" if we use the 4 good OF's approach for DH we wouldn't have to worry about bench depth. not using pinch runners as much , more speed in the every day lineup and no 1 dimensional ( hit only) guy .

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 07:25 AM) then have Hahn walk away. the dodgers need to unload 2 very expensive outfielders contract. if this is not a sellers market and its is not a buyers market, then what is it??? I'd be shocked to see the Sox take on any bad contracts. There are enough guys on the FA market who will provide value that won't break the bank. Lot's of guys who will be 3 yrs around $30-40M and less for most relief pitchers.

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 09:06 AM) big question can he maintain his hitting to strikeout stats. He has his whole career . Good OBP guy, won't kill you on defense. To me he's like VMart-lite, switch hitter who hits LH's and RH's pretty equally but since he's not a DH can provide value in the field and for the bench.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 07:40 AM) The White Sox are not going after Max Scherzer. The last thing they will do is spend the vast majority of their off season money on one guy. I'm coming around to thinking the Sox could sign 4/5 free agents in the affordable category like Melky, Rasmus, Neshek, Janssen, McCarthy , Miller. Most of these guys won't get more than 3 years maybe 4 in some cases. Even Headley doesn't look like his cost will be prohibitive. Surprisngly the Sox haven't been linked to any of these guys.... yet.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 08:08 AM) Heyman said don't over look the southsiders this winter... http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-he...others-on-radar The more and more I look over the list of free agents and their expected price tags the better and better Melky Cabrera looks.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 04:45 AM) Range isn't the problem. It's a combination of his hands, and his arm is probably MLB average or a notch above, but it's not his best tool....if he had the arm of a Valentin, Uribe or Alexei, a lot of his mishandled/misplayed balls could still be converted into outs. I read somewhere that a decent amount of his errors are on throws where his feet aren't set, so that would be mechanics wouldn't it ?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 01:20 PM) http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/jose-abreu-...outing-reports/ Thanks for that . To the doubting Thomases I say " I told you so " !

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 06:38 PM) He played with Moises' emotions. He is a cad and a bounder !

So bsically if you want him vote for him disregarding if it makes our payroll $200M ? Well hell then I voted. VMart, Scherzer, Melky , Martin, Robertson, McCarty, Miller and Gregerson because that last group needed someone. Hell just should have thrown Lester in there too.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 8, 2014 -> 06:28 AM) Looks like this thread has run it's course. With a late surge by the yeses the final tally is 36 yes 30 no. Ok not quite "final" .

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 06:32 AM) I think his Korean team will get the 20 million fee. It's kind of an unprecedented move but I am sure the Sox have seen him play. A power hitting, switch-hitter could definitely fit somewhere on the roster if the scouts like him more than his market. He's RH not a switch hitter. http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/p...id=kang--000jeo Peter Gammons also mentioned him but the baseball ref. and the numbers Gammons used for 2014 are slightly different.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 10:34 AM) Any other realistic or off-the-wall ideas as we all patiently wait for the first real SOX domino to fall? Thought of starting a new thread but decided I'd try this specualation here. With the price of Cubans becoming prohibitive maybe Hahn has an under the radar International free agent signing up his sleeve such as Jeong-ho Kang . He is a RH 27 year old Korea SS who had a 1.189 OPS in the KBO. He can also play 3rd and OF and is supposed to be posted soon. Doubtful the posting fee will be $20M but you never know. The Korean Jeague is not even the equal of the Japanese league so speculation is rampant with how his numbers would translate. The best article I could find is this. http://beisbols.org/2014/09/08/biggest-x-factor-free-agency/

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 06:44 PM) BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 7, 2014 -> 07:27 PM) Thanks for posting the link. I enjoyed watching the highlites. As I said in an earlier post, I'd rather trade for Saunders than sign Rasmus. I love the idea of playing Avi in LF too. If the sox for some crazy reason did make a trade for Cargo, the DH spot could be used to give guys a day off from the playing field. Might help keep all four out fielders healthy. Its something to keep in mind anyway. You're welcome. 4 decent OF's and a rotating DH has also run through my mind considering the long odds of landing VMart. I would prefer that and having the flexibility to a full time DH if VMart is unattainable.

Looks like this thread has run it's course. With a late surge by the yeses the final tally is 36 yes 30 no.