CaliSoxFanViaSWside

Dunn good job. 4-0 Sox.

Cy looking human after all.

Guests outnumbering members in game thread 9-8 .

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 05:38 PM) I saw it somewhere. Maybe scrolling the bottom of the screen on MLB network. I mean 2-15 in our last 17 road games since that was what you were talking about.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 05:36 PM) That's not possible. We never got over the .500 mark this season. We were right there before the Cubs' series. I saw it somewhere. Maybe scrolling the bottom of the screen on MLB network.

I feel like its a successful thread start getting 2 runs of Guthrie in the 1st.

QUOTE (balfanman @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 04:56 PM) DOABLE! Whatever happened to Steff anyway? I remember being a newbie and her treating me like crap .

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 05:12 PM) White Sox are 13-27 on the road. Wow. Didn't realize the splits were that dramatic. It's what happens when your 2-15 in your last 17.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 02:33 PM) ‏@CST_soxvan 1h #whitesox at KC, 7:10 CSN. Santiago v Guthrie De Aza CF Ramirez SS Rios RF Dunn 1B Konerko DH Gillaspie 3B Viciedo LF Beckham 2B Flowers C Same old same old.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 05:50 AM) http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-leag...-171501654.html Mattingly's also supporting Bochy's idea that it would be almost impossible to pick Puig over players who've produced for 2 1/2 months. That said, if MLB.com puts him into the vote, then all bets are off. As great as the story of Puig is , there's no way he deserves an All Star game appearance. That kind of thing would be totally unfair to all baseball players who toil for years to get picked where they put together that one magical half season who might not ever get picked again. Puig will get plenty of All Star appearances if he proves it over more than a handful of games.

This got no love since there wasn't a winner's thread to acknowledge it but Crain having a monster year . I wish him luck in the post season on another team. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...ws&c_id=cws

Looking for a good showing from Santiago and not the same old same old from Ventura , not that it would make any difference against arch-nemesis Guthrie.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 01:18 PM) I think we're at a point where we have to trade some of these guys. Obviously Crain and Thornton must be moved, they're free agents at the end of the year assuming Matt's option isn't picked up, so the Sox can weigh the prospect received for them against "absolutely nothing". IMO, the fact that the Sox are sitting on six starters (successful alliteration) suggests that they should seriously think of selling someone like Peavy as well, as although he's not a FA at the end of this year, if they move any of their starters to the bullpen they will lose some value on that starter, which counts as an additional negative if no move is made. A guy like De Aza, Rios, Ramirez, guys we have no replacement for...those are the guys you need to really take into account the bust rate. You might get a guy back that the whole website really likes and then be screwed because he needs longer than Hosmer/Viciedo to develop, if he ever does. Agreed which is why I have been advocating Sending Peavy/Rios and getting Leonys Martin ( and others) from the Rangers. But Cruz has to be suspended 1st and Peavy pitch well post injury for that to have a chance to play out.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 10:28 PM) Holy s***, I tweeted the EXACT same thing. Weird. From the Katie Baker story " Let's just say that more than one person in my Twitter feed observed that "The Saad giveth, and he taketh away." http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/940625...s-bruins-goals/

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 07:25 AM) I still can't imagine anyone would give up anything of serious value for him. I pretty much expect him to remain "much more valuable to the Sox over the next 3+ years than he would be in a trade". Depends what you call "serious value". Might be a contender out there especially in the NL, that needs a 5th starter type who is more valuable to the rest of this season who has a blocked prospect with decent upside who they'd be willing to move. Axe has to cooperate and and have some more decent starts though going forward. But if Peavy is traded I doubt any of our other starters are unless we get some very good returns.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 10:17 AM) Martin is just a 5...average regular. You need tons of high ceiling, proejctable talent. If the Sox acquired Brinson, Gallo, and Alfaro I would do backflips. And while I understand there is a considerable amount of risk, having the "we need to find ML ready talent" isn't going to happen, and it's the wrong thing to do. White Sox fans need to get used to thinking that this team is not going to compete for 3 to 4 years. Leonys Martin is an already established major leaguer. In fact he is Rios lite., less power so less slugging and OPS but plays a premium position in CF . I'd venture to say when the trading is said and done if the Sox get that kind of player I would be pleased. Only 25 , cost controlled for 5 yrs. plays well defensively in a premium position his WAR is 1.9, Rios 1.8. We need high upside sure, but you are not going to be playing nothing but A ballers at the ML level and we need talent here too. If he is a 5 what is Rios when you throw in his salary and age ?

Leddy only played 4 shift about 2 1/2 minutes of ice time. Only 5 defense men bulk of the game.

Hawks attacking Bickle off the crossbar Sharp rebound good chances. Oops wrong thread .

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 07:05 PM) i was hoping to watch a nice complete Blackhawks blowout win tonight. now i have this. Damn good game . Hawks PK dropping so far back ,not aggressive at all . Lucky it's not tied. Kelly missed wide open tap in but was pressured from behind.

Danks you get picked off again I will hunt you down

Atta boy getting close to .250

Dunn refusing to take the walk that was offered to him. Pick him up PK.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 06:33 PM) Can anyone describe what happened that inning? Looks like some bad base running. Ground ball scored the run but Flowers thrown out in run down between 2nd and 3rd while De Aza advanced to 2nd. Alexei ground ball up the middle no chance to throw him out De Aza caught rounding 3rd thrown out trying to get back.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 02:25 PM) It has been said 1000 times, but it bears repeating. No Rios=no chance to compete in 2014. You can survive without Peavy, arguably, because of the starting pitching depth that we have, and the fact that his salary can be replaced by another bat. If you're going out to buy Rios' contribution on the FA market, you're just as likely to get burned as not, if you look at recent history with acquisitions like Swisher, Keppinger or Dunn. It's been said 1000 time with you saying it 999 times but one player does not damn the 2014 season no matter how you look at it. Next year might be damned anyway . Realistically looking to compete in 2015 after Dunn is gone unless by some miracle we can dump him this year. I really hate to punt on 2014 , I mean really hate it, but keeping Rios seriously puts a dent in the payroll and payroll flexibility is more important than Rios . You just said Peavy's salary can be replaced by a bat .Throw in Rios salary and maybe now you have 2 bats for 2014 so why is Rios bat so important if we can get one for Peavy and another for Rios ?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 02:22 PM) Rios' contract is good now. He's repeating his career year last year and is under contract for one more year plus an option at $12.5m per year. Over the past ten years, free agent market rates usually pay $5-7m per WAR. Rios is a 3-4 WAR OF being paid like a 2 WAR OF on a short term contract in which the second year is a team option. Which is why I said it's not as bad as it used to appear because his last 1 1/2 yrs. have been good, but a team getting him is still taking on approx $25 milion and if some contenders are on his 6 team list it makes it even harder. Also a clause that adds .5 million if traded though that's basically meaningless.