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Cleveland station showed it and thought it was a bad call.

Brebbia only 2 runs allowed in his last 16 games assuming he's not pitching another inning.

SHeets boned on 3rd strike call.

Nice of Grifol to get ejected on K by Pham who pinch hit for Lee to bring Maldonado into the game. But Robert comes through with 2 out single to tie it .

Sosa shoots one to RF for RBI double. His 2nd double of the game. He was almost gunned down at 2nd.

DeJong deked by Kwan can't get to 3rd on a ball that one hopped the LF wall by Lopez. DeJong almost picked off 2nd.

Sox 0-40 when trailing after 6 innings.

Leaving Flexen in for 3rd time through the order not a good idea, especially afyer an off day.

Dejong

Hey it worked . Soxtalk might not survive without bad things happening it would be too ?

Crickets round here after a Robert HR ? Need more negative stuff to happen to generate posts.

Thank you Mr. Robert, Jr. ! Rawrrr, Rawrrrrr

If Robert was hitting like Vaughn right now things would heat up in the Robert trade market.

There should be separate threads for Cochet ,Robert and Fedde talks and one for the rest of the guys. But anyway here's one proposed trade for Crochet.https://fansided.com/posts/mlb-rumors-garrett-crochet-trade-orioles-outbit-dodgers-padres This writer has 4 articles proposing trade packages from the Dodgers, Padres, Astros and Orioles for Crochet and 2 for Robert from the Phillies and Mariners. The link is for the Orioles proposed trade only because I'm most familiar with their prospects because of all the discussions about the Cease trade. But you might be amused by some of the others. Not a bad proposal with the O's.

So why is Kopech a headache and not TA ? Kopech's had knee problems.I don't see you cutting Kopech any slack.

He's not getting spaghetti dinners no more.

Let's assume JR is going to JR with Getz much in the same manner he has with KW and Hahn. Maybe now it may even be worse with JR proclaiming they can no longer compete because of their current location and exhorbitant contracts to top players. We also don't know how Getz will choose to GM . Will it be like Hahn and the middling veteran type talent with the occasional foray above $70M but not above $100M ? That all fell apart very quickly. Hahn's FA signings throughout his tenure were terrible but that's to be expected when you're dealing with older players. But he kept his job for a long time because he operated within JRs parameters. JR has never committed to building infrastruture and player development . So which direction will Getz go ? Will he just be another Hahn doing as JR instructs or can he find a way to get JR to operate more like the Rays . Odds are that JR isn't changing and that Getz is just his latest puppet. Maybe Robert or Crochet aren't traded by the deadline and we'll get a clearer picture during the off-season and see how much money JR is willing to put into next year's team with more money coming off the books. We're all just speculating now . Robert is still working on his game. He's trying to be more selective and taking a lot more walks . I still have a difficult time thinking both will be traded by the deadline. In my eyes it's 50/50 which breaks down to one is and one isn't . Will Getz be targeting position players ? That will make trading them harder. Should he still take high level pitching prospects from a team like the Phillies if they also offer good up the middle type players ? Sox will need a CF , they might need a SS too. If both are held you're looking for Robert to stay healthy and hit well in the summer months . Crochet... also need him to stay healthy.Maybe he can pitch 150 innings . That would set up a very interesting off season where both could be worth more than they are now. The health of their best players has been an issue . JR is the bigger issue. How he combines his future plans for his heirs ,a new stadium and the team is the conundrum.

So you gloss over everything terrible about his 2023 by talking about FIP ? FIp doesn't mean crap if you can't throw strikes and are negative value to your team. You can't blame everything on the defense. As much as we try defensive stats are hard to quantify. If a team has a .950 fielding percentage we consider that pretty bad but they are still making 95% of the plays. If you stop walking guys as much the bad fielding won't hurt you as much. Crochet seems to be able to pitch and everyone is whining Getz didn't make the D any better like he promised. Why is that ? Oh because he doesn't walk anybody. What's next are you going to blame the framing for not getting him more Ks ? Maybe u can find a stat that umps had trouble calling his pitches strikes because they had so much movement and he couldn't hit his spots consistently.

What the heck is risk motivation ?

It's a game thread. Nuff said.

Rox defense won it for them . They made a lot of real good plays.

1 inning closer type marketing him for a trade. Wins don't matter , trade value does.

Saw the replay. I think it was close.

Kopech dominant that inning Walk off time.

Dude aced him with 2 FBs on the edge after not throwing a FB for a strike to Vaughn. Not gonna blame Robert for being down 0-2 in that count. Didn't look like he swung on the appealed strike 3